In this day and age??

[skinnersscotch]

Ahm no gonna make any points aboot the golf.

However, any comparison to the clearances is just dramtic hype and is not relevant to these circumstances. There are four houses being offered good money to move.

The clearances whole villages and Glens were forced out and evicted, often by absentee landlord's henchmen and, particularly in Sutherland, with violence and no consideration for the fate of the families.

The evicted families were sent to ridiculous 'villages' such as Badbea where they had to tie their children down for fear of them being blown off the cliffs.

To say that these four poor unfortunates have to move and spend their money buying a nice house wherever they like is comprable to the Clearances devalues what happened way back then.

 

[Klanky]

Ahm no gonna make any points aboot the golf.

However, any comparison to the clearances is just dramtic hype and is not relevant to these circumstances. There are four houses being offered good money to move.

The clearances whole villages and Glens were forced out and evicted, often by absentee landlord's henchmen and, particularly in Sutherland, with violence and no consideration for the fate of the families.

The evicted families were sent to ridiculous 'villages' such as Badbea where they had to tie their children down for fear of them being blown off the cliffs.

To say that these four poor unfortunates have to move and spend their money buying a nice house wherever they like is comprable to the Clearances devalues what happened way back then.

You're right of course, it pales into insignificance in comparison.

But forcing people of their own land purely for the sake of someone elses' profit is abhorrent. Contrary to what television property programmes and estate agents would have us believe, not everyone views their home as merely a dwelling that can be exchanged for cash and profit at any given moment in time.
Cash is not the issue here, and that's why Trump is making so many enemies out of an issue that he could actually have turned to his advantage. He either cannot see (because he believes he can do no wrong), or he does not care about, peoples attatchment to place and sense of belonging.

You mentioned 'absentee landlords henchmen', in this case, the instigator of these forced evictions doesn't even own the property he is trying to get his henchmen/lackeys to evict from.

The numbers involved may be different, but the mentality behind bullying (because, make no mistake, that's what it is) these people is exactly the same as it was in the C18th and C19th.


(Edit) Regarding offers, one of the unfortunate subjects of Mr Trumps attentions is a guy who owns a a converted coastguard property (which he's spent 17 years doing up).

The offer from Trump? "Wouldn't have bought me a two bedroom flat in Dyce"....

 

[PhilM]

For our dear readers who are not up to speed on this story.

Here's the latest news and various links to other articles and sites

Trump vs The North East

 

[Fanum]

Mr Trump's son, Donald Trump Jnr, earlier told BBC Scotland the owners have been offered a 15% premium on market value.
He said they had also been given the chance to buy new homes at cost price, and the lifetime use of facilities.

Oh, and not forgetting that they get free use of his golf course

He's one of the richest men on the planet, and he offers them peanuts (in relation to the hassle of having to move out of your home)

Surely he could give them all a million quid and it wouldn't even touch the sides of the barrel he's spending on the legal fees on the whole process, let alone the $ interest he makes in one bloody hour on his kingdom of wealth!!

In offering such a pittance, he's taking the pish

 

[AberdeenAngus]

He's offering 15% above market for their houses. So based on average prices up here that'll be about 50k.
Plus he's offering them the chance to buy a new house on his development at cost, which they can then sell, and make another (say) 50k.
Plus free lifetime membership of the course, probably worth another 20k at least.

Thing is, if he offers them an extra million, and they accept, won't that prove that they were just holding out for more money.
No. I am sure these are principled people who object to the golf course and can't be bought out for any amount.

We'll see.

 

[Deleted account rno]

He's offering 15% above market for their houses. So based on average prices up here that'll be about 50k.
Plus he's offering them the chance to buy a new house on his development at cost, which they can then sell, and make another (say) 50k.
Plus free lifetime membership of the course, probably worth another 20k at least.

Thing is, if he offers them an extra million, and they accept, won't that prove that they were just holding out for more money.
No. I am sure these are principled people who object to the golf course and can't be bought out for any amount.

We'll see.

I'm fecking sure I wouldn't move either unless old Trumpet really made it worth my while.

What's principles got to do with it? Surely, it's purely a matter of supply and demand? They have something that he wants so he'll have to pay whatever he (and more importantly they) think the properties are really worth.

Good luck to them.

 

[wully]

They have something that he wants so he'll have to pay whatever he (and more importantly they) think the properties are really worth.
.

Not if he bullies the council into CP and gets them out that way- what is what I strongly object to.
If they want more dosh and manage to wring it out of him then that's all well and good as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Phil Clarke]

Tell the toupe wearing twit to sod off back to america he's not welcome here - the council refused his application so our so called govt decided to throw democracy to the wind and let him do as he pleases. I can't believe people have been taken in by his hype - local jobs will be minimal and minimum wage, the site will be of no benefit for locals as it will be aimed squarely at mega rich idiots who think that they'll get a nice sunny round of golf in north east Scotland. Any profits go to his wallet, none to Scotland. Construction will go to a golf course specialist with some basic civils to local firms - big deal... Plus he's happy to trash a SSSI even though he was told he'd get planning approval if he altered a couple of holes by a minimal amount. Now he's trying to force the council to CPO residents - note if it goes to CPO they'll only get current value plus legal fees - pretty low just now.
If this is the price of independence then its not worth it.
Phil

 

[SteveT]

Klanky,

Well put in your earlier post

Steve T

 

[PhilM]

Glad to see the local coooncil have the best interests of the residents at heart

BBC News


trippinguptrump.com

 

[Klanky]

Glad to see the local coooncil have the best interests of the residents at heart

BBC News

I really can't see why the Council will not formally commit themselves to turning down CPO's for commercial gain. However, I half heard something on Reporting Scotland last night where someone claimed (i think) that it could set a precedent that may come back to haunt them later on in a different situation.

Can anyone clarify the reasons?