I think you're wrong, and I think that's the way a motorbike steers as well.
When you initiate a right turn, the wheel first goes left, the contact patch moves back and to the left causing the bike to lean and turn right.
I guess we will just have to differ then... I know what I do when leaning and I certainly don't start the turn by going in the opposite direction. Remember, this is both hands off the bars. Its really easy to tell on a pushbike - do you have one?
I pay little attention to the science of steering.....It's just something that happens.....though playing deliberately with peg weighting and pushing the opposite bar end to achieve countersteering can be quite surprising and also fulfilling.
FWIW though, I agree with Cookie......and having followed him through the arse end of the twisties in Donegal, me solo on my GSA, with him back in his lardy boy days PLUS a pillion on his GSA, and having to ride faster than I was (at that time) comfortable to do while he made it all look very smooth and natural, I know he can ride
I suspect that a lot of this whole discussion is based on interpretation and semantics, and a rather large amount of people not actually knowing how they get around a corner so smoothly.....so much is going on subconsciously, done as muscle memory and instinct, that it's actually quite hard to isolate a particular technique, and even harder to assign values to it.
I learnt so much from off-road riding on loose surfaces and gravel than I know.....and apart from being shouted at to do what was and still is utterly counter-intuitive in sand (POWER ON!!!!!) I have, I hope, absorbed a lot of it in my road riding.
Explaining it though, well that's a totally different thing
Whatever works, no matter how you explain it, it doesn't matter as long as you are happy and safe in your riding...I suspect many of the experienced riders arguing the toss about certain aspects of forces applied etc are actually doing the same thing, even if it isn't being explained very well
Job done.
