Insulin

[stick]

I have posted this on the wanted section but wondered if anyone on the site has done or been tho this before , I ask as we will be traveling in temps over 30 degrees and insulin needs to be stored below this , I can use the frigo storage system but this still needs to breath as it works ( cools) thro evaporation ...

Wanted Post:
Does anyone have a bar bag spare as I'm experimenting with an idea to carry my wifes insulin on the bike in hot weather.
The insulin needs to be stored at a certain temp range to keep it viable.
I need to make a breathable secure bag to allow the storage bag to breathe due to the process in the way its stored.
I will cut the back out of a Kreiga bag ( mesh) and somehow adapt to the bar bag.
Long story but even a damaged one may work.
So anyone out there....
Thanks

 

[Bobbin-Man]

This might be of use in addition to what you're planning.

 

[Davel]

I use two different Frigo pouches, a small one for keeping handy - and a larger one for carrying the spares.

I put the larger one inside my bag of clothes.

Never had a problem with these at higher temperatures - over 30 degrees.

 

[MikeO]

I use two different Frigo pouches, a small one for keeping handy - and a larger one for carrying the spares.

I put the larger one inside my bag of clothes.

Never had a problem with these at higher temperatures - over 30 degrees.

I would have thought this is the ideal (and simplest) solution. Even on a very hot day, the insulating effect of layers of clothing etc will easily do the job...

 

[stick]

This might be of use in addition to what you're planning.

Thanks for the link , I think the frigo wallets will suit us better , again thanks for the idea.

 

[stick]

I use two different Frigo pouches, a small one for keeping handy - and a larger one for carrying the spares.

I put the larger one inside my bag of clothes.

Never had a problem with these at higher temperatures - over 30 degrees.

Thanks , I had wondered if this was the way , but I spoke to Frigo customer services and explain the pouch would be inside the pannier and they suggested that this may affect the evaporation , so it would be better to keep outside.
But saying that you seem to not had problems , maybe damp gears tho lol .
Its a bit of a minefield as the wife has only had T1 for 6 months so all new to us , and I am probley over thinking things as usual , but my wife is my most precious thing after all she lets me ride my bikes in the house .....
Cheers

 

[Davel]

Well I was very concerned on my first trip away with Insulin.

You can even put the Frigo wallet in a plastic pouch / bag to keep your clothes dry - and then pack it in your clothes.

Normally, at the end of a hot day, your bag of clothes will still stay reasonably below the outside temperatures.

Frigo may be right but what I do works for me. The wallet may not chill as much, as they suggest, but it is enough for me.

Nothing wrong with being cautious about this at all.

The smaller bag, I still put with my clothes but within easy reach.

 

[bisbee]

If you consider that there are many folk in hot climates their storage may not involve a fridge at all I have read where some insulin is probably OK to around body temp ie appx 37degrees C
High ambient temperatures are a risk for diabetes patients and should be considered in any event by getting proper advice from a clinic, GP and insulin supplier

ps I'm type 2 but take an insulin premix of Humalin3

 

[Davel]

Me too

 

[Bendy toy]

Have you tried to find a small electric cooling container? Like the cool boxes but smaller?

 

[stick]

If you consider that there are many folk in hot climates their storage may not involve a fridge at all I have read where some insulin is probably OK to around body temp ie appx 37degrees C
High ambient temperatures are a risk for diabetes patients and should be considered in any event by getting proper advice from a clinic, GP and insulin supplier

ps I'm type 2 but take an insulin premix of Humalin3

Thanks , the Insulin ( 2 different ones as Type 1 dependant) needs to be stored at around 28 Deg or less or not below freezing as this in effect destroys the insulin. We have attended a few courses with the Diabetes specialist and have realised and understand the complexities of life with Type 1 .
Its a bugger really but on the road to normality .
Thanks for all the replies and hope to do the pannier method , but i like a challenge so will persevere with the mods , cheers guys.
Stick

 

[MikeO]

Thanks , the Insulin ( 2 different ones as Type 1 dependant) needs to be stored at around 28 Deg or less or not below freezing as this in effect destroys the insulin. We have attended a few courses with the Diabetes specialist and have realised and understand the complexities of life with Type 1 .
Its a bugger really but on the road to normality .
Thanks for all the replies and hope to do the pannier method , but i like a challenge so will persevere with the mods , cheers guys.
Stick

How about packing a pannier up, putting a thermometer in the middle of a load of clothes, then put the whole shebang into the airing cupboard for a few hours and then have a look at the residual temp?

 

[bisbee]

What you might call a bush trick is to fill a jar or zip lock bag with wet sand to store things in
if that helps anyone in the wilds so to speak

 

[Stormforce8]

I use a Frio wallet for my insulin, tucked under a mesh net on the rollbag behind me. Never had any issues with it in all day rides over 30 degrees, then recharge at the overnight stop. Works for me

 

[Deleted account 191119001]

Would this work ???????

 

[stick]

Big Thanks

Guys , many thanks for the posts , advice etc , taking all on board and will look at all.
Have ordered a https://www.nippynormans.com/r1100s/moto-fizz-waist-bag from Nippy as this has the mesh , so with a little doctoring I'm sure we will have the solution.
Again really appreciate your inputs and the help this site can give .
One wheels enough

 

[Davel]

Let us know how you get on with it.

Like the flask idea too.

 

[Fat Biker 66]

OP - Don't forget your customs letter from GP re your needles ie medical necessity Helps especially if you get overzealous Eurostar / Customs or Airport security.

 

[NeilDD]

Having been T1 for over 20 years, I would say that you're over thinking it
Make sure the Frio bag is well soaked overnight, and as long as you keep it out of direct sunlight you won't have problems.
I have 2 Frio bags one for my pens and 1 for bulk vials. Never had a problem.

A couple of other suggestions,
1 carry a couple of SIS energy gel pouches. They have sugar and carbohydrates which will help in the event of a hypo

2 put the Frio bag with the bulk insulin in a ziplock bag that has a couple of small holes to allow evaporation

HTH

If you want any more information drop me a PM

Neil

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[Davel]

Never had a Customs letter, just flash your medic alert or insulin passport from your GP.

Customs are pretty aware of the gear you carry these days.

As Neil says, you are worrying too much about it probably.

Type 2 for 18 years - injecting for about 5.