Insured warranty??

[JohnnyBoxer]

JB

It's absolutely nothing to do with the perceived reliability of the 1200. The dealers offer a warranty on their other offerings as well if the bikes are an Approved Used BMW.

All dealers sell there vehicles to the general public with a warranty of some description regardless of make/model etc etc etc. If they don't, it's classed as a trade sale which is a whole new ballgame and a feckin minefield

I know the official line and why they do it.....................but in reality they know that a 1200 series will break down in some way - that is the reality

On a previous 1100/1150 model bike it may still break down or then again it may not - most dealers may sell you a 1100/1150 as a 'trade' sale, with no warranty.............but I doubt they would take a similar gamble on a 1200 series bike....................so when a 1200 series bike gets to 10 years old (ie in 4 years time on a 2004) and it is not eligible for a BMW approved warranty - how will the bike trade perceive it - worth something or worthless

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

i've asked myself, and the answer came back "cobblers"

So Cookie.....................you gambled

 

[karnevil]

Don't forget the extended warranty includes european recovery too.I'm well in front with my warranty work,and no arguements and long periods of the bike being off road while "blame" is sorted,no standing out of money either well pleased with my decision to have the extended warranty.Pays monthly too.

 

[Nice 'n' Fat]

From memory the main difference between the new bike and replacement warranty is that the replacement warranty does not cover corrosion.

As far as companies like Warranty Direct, the biggest issues I see with these is that you have to make all the calls and do the negotiating and may then have to pay the dealer bill while waiting for the warranty company to pay up. If you have the BMW warranty and a decent dealer the dealer staff(who have vast experience of dealing with warranty claims) will deal direct and claim payment direct from them.

Something else you will need to factor in is the cost of the hourly labour rate when carrying out a repair. If your BMW dealer charges £75 per hour but the warranty company only pay £25 per hour it will be up to you to pay the difference Alternatively you could use the warranty companies preferred supplier in which case you could still end up temporarily out of pocket waiting to be reimbursed for the repairs

You pays yer money and you takes yer chances

 

[Sgt Bilco]

I know the official line and why they do it.....................but in reality they know that a 1200 series will break down in some way - that is the reality

You could be right.......!! Still, I would gamble on an oldish 1200 because I think they are good as long as you know what may happen. My 1997 1100's final drive lunched itself in california and it cost me $1200 to fix but I knew it may happen sometime so no worries.

Any old bike can go bang no matter what the badge on the tank

 

[Gazzabart]

good

Hi Tom

i pay £33.00 per month till i tell em not to take it any more (BMW Warranty)
i have had 2 problems sorted without any fuss at all
both problems were way way over the cost of the warranty
everytime i go out on the bike in the uk or europe i have total peace of mind that BMW and Bahnstormers are there if anything goes wrong
i just enjoy the trips and never worry about breaking down

peace of mind is worth its weight in gold
but i accept we are all different and people have other views

let us know what you decide Tom and hope to see you soon

Gaz

 

[Beemerman59]

i've seen two year old 12's for 8.5k approved.... trade in @ 6.5-7k.. Dealer profit 2k...... new bike with options say 12.5k plus delivery tax an shite

so lets say £12.7... thats about £5.7k to move up to 2010, and that does not include any finance costs.......so add another £1.0k

you could keep the 12 and buy a nice 1150 for that sort of money

so £5,700 cost to change... versus extended warranty at £400, service by Steptoe £150 and tyres from Russ in Portsmouth £200.....thats £750...

Umm.......

Agreed but then there's another load of depreciation as soon as the new bike leaves the dealer. Another 3K to add maybe to the trade in cost. It seems to me the additional warranty is a fairly low risk option if you don't have to have this years number plate. The high risk comes in if you don't take the warranty and do your own servicing but the potential reward much higher. On the mileage I do just the warranty and two services a year is the best part of a grand. If you look at the savings over a three year period, even an expensive failure such as a failed final drive is affordable in the longer term.

If you need this years plate, convenience, ego or the best buddy factor at the dealers then trade in every two years is fine but there's no argument on the grounds of cost alone. Keeping a 2 year old with extended warranty seems the sensible and fairy safe approach to me. I'm just wondering whether to take the risk, buy a GS911 and do it all myself. So far, after two years, mine's been 100% reliable, all the recalls are done and I have a fairly well equiped garage and 30 years experience of basic wrenching. Decisions, decisions.....

 

[bod]

Hi Tom

i pay £33.00 per month till i tell em not to take it any more (BMW Warranty)
i have had 2 problems sorted without any fuss at all
both problems were way way over the cost of the warranty
everytime i go out on the bike in the uk or europe i have total peace of mind that BMW and Bahnstormers are there if anything goes wrong
i just enjoy the trips and never worry about breaking down

peace of mind is worth its weight in gold
but i accept we are all different and people have other views

let us know what you decide Tom and hope to see you soon

Gaz

Just had my bike out for the first time since Boxing day! It would grieve me to think it had cost me £33 for a warranty direct debit when it hadn't turned a wheel to go wrong!

All this protection lark sits wrong with me, payment protection, critical illness, protected no claims . . . it just goes on & on! You could blow your annual wages covering yourself against what could but may never happen. Yes, you may be quids in with your BMW warranty, but you have to offset that against all the other crap you have been sold.

As for me, 55 plate GS1200 NO WARRANTY owned nearly a year. 1 blown headlight bulb. Total cost £3.50

 

[cookie]

I know the official line and why they do it.....................but in reality they know that a 1200 series will break down in some way - that is the reality

not at all.

my bike is getting on for 4 years old and has never had any critical warranty work done on it. just some cosmetic bits that i probably would have looked after better if the bmw wasn't going to put some new ones on perhaps.

it has had the engine/gearbox seals done as there was a very fine trace of oil on the joint, but if it wasn't under warranty, i'd have just ignored it, or fixed it myself.

it's never broken down, left me stranded, not started or missed a beat really in 20K

it's on it's original battery even.

So Cookie.....................you gambled

i did get the 4th year warranty, but it was a close run thing. £330 for that + about the same again for a service, or more if i need a 12 month one as find i do now (i'd forgotten that when i went for the warranty ).
let's say £650 per year. that goes a fair way to a new final drive which i'd have fitted in less than an hour.
maybe something bigger like an ABS pump could go? could go on an 1150 too, plenty have done, yet you don't say a warranty is essential on one of those. ditto clutch housing oil leaks

i have recovery insurance anyway. not as nice as bmw assist, i admit, but i know it works, i've seen it in action on someone else's bike (harley).

i think i know why you sold your 12 now, fear for your wallet made you do it. you couldn't sleep at night, could you?

the fact is, that the superiority of the 1200 over the 1150 in almost every way, as a riders bike, means i (and i don't think i'm alone here) will not be going back to an 1150 any time soon.

 

[diplomaticdanny]

I look at it this way, I have extended the warranty on my 06 adv and will do every year I own it, not just for peace of mind and full European breakdown cover. I think it must increase the second hand value, I would be prepared to pay more for a bike with warranty than one without, especially a 1200 with all the negative feedback on this site. Have to say though, 15000 miles and once it nearly didn't start (top of the Fluela Pass 0 degrees, 4 inches of snow on it), otherwise hasn't missed a beat.

Danny

 

[Nice 'n' Fat]

Good point ..... the warranty is transferable to the new (private) owner but expires if you p/ex it to a dealer

 

[bod]

I look at it this way, I have extended the warranty on my 06 adv and will do every year I own it, not just for peace of mind and full European breakdown cover. I think it must increase the second hand value, I would be prepared to pay more for a bike with warranty than one without, especially a 1200 with all the negative feedback on this site. Have to say though, 15000 miles and once it nearly didn't start (top of the Fluela Pass 0 degrees, 4 inches of snow on it), otherwise hasn't missed a beat.

Danny

Increase the value - don't fool yourself!

I bought a CB1300 from George Whites & part exchanged a GSX1400. The first time they saw the Suzuki was when I rode it in to pick up the Honda.
It was a filthy winter morning, and the bike was covered in salt & shite. They didn't even come out of the warm showroom to look at it. Neither did they check the service history.
Book price is all that matters - nothing else!

 

[skyenet]

My Bike is in its third year and couldn't afford BMW Warranty and just took the gamble without it. However last week the AA phoned me and offered me Parts & Labour coverage up until the beginning of April for £17.00. Five repairs (max £500 each) a year with a £25 excess each time. Seemed rude not to take it out.

Will review my AA breakdown cover in April (Got the full monty- top of the range cover last April for £43 whcih had a RRp of just under £200) and then will probably go with their £75 a year Parts & Labour Cover. I note that they are currently offering Roadside + Relay + Home Start + Parts & Labour for £149.00 which seems a good deal. However this does not include European Cover which is £££££££s


http://www.theaa.com/breakdown-cover/uk-breakdown/view-options.do?cphc=Y&optMshp=vcon300PLCP

 

[diplomaticdanny]

When I said increase the value, I meant a private sale, dealers have to give you a warranty on any bike so it wouldn't mean anything to them but someone who bought my bike privately and could extend the warranty every year upto 100000 miles would consider it a better bet than any other similar bike with no warranty. I know I would.

Danny

 

[bod]

When I said increase the value, I meant a private sale, dealers have to give you a warranty on any bike so it wouldn't mean anything to them but someone who bought my bike privately and could extend the warranty every year upto 100000 miles would consider it a better bet than any other similar bike with no warranty. I know I would.

Danny

Fair point Danny - so would I

 

[AdieL]

When I said increase the value, I meant a private sale, dealers have to give you a warranty on any bike so it wouldn't mean anything to them but someone who bought my bike privately and could extend the warranty every year upto 100000 miles would consider it a better bet than any other similar bike with no warranty. I know I would.

Danny

From what I remember from the blurb I read when I extended my warranty recently, the new owner will only benefit from the remaining period of an annually paid policy. I dont think he can renew it after that period.
I still cant decide whether I want the extended cover so I am paying monthly until I feel brave enough to bin it!

 

[Nice 'n' Fat]

An extended warranty is likely to help with the sale if you're selling privately

 

[Deleted Member I]

Just renewed it today.

Things that were made aware at the time of purchase.
1. Total value of the claim(s) within the year cannot exceed the value of the bike (value as per your original sales invoice)
2. Corrosion NOT covered
3. Parts that A DEALER DEEMS to have failed due to wear and tear will not be replaced

Other than that the usual expected exclusions of wear & tear items (tyres, brake pads, discs).

The policy is one where if the handbook doesn't list it then it is not covered. Plus the caveat on point 3 above, so a part on the list but deemed (by the dealer) to have failed due to wear & tear then not covered.

Still better than a 1200 with no warranty. Now that would be living life on the edge

 

[LBL]

good man

Just renewed it today.

Things that were made aware at the time of purchase.
1. Total value of the claim(s) within the year cannot exceed the value of the bike (value as per your original sales invoice)
2. Corrosion NOT covered
3. Parts that A DEALER DEEMS to have failed due to wear and tear will not be replaced

Other than that the usual expected exclusions of wear & tear items (tyres, brake pads, discs).

The policy is one where if the handbook doesn't list it then it is not covered. Plus the caveat on point 3 above, so a part on the list but deemed (by the dealer) to have failed due to wear & tear then not covered.

Still better than a 1200 with no warranty. Now that would be living life on the edge

All safeguarded with breakdown cover and now ready for a nice trip abroad

 

[Deleted Member I]

All safeguarded with breakdown cover and now ready for a nice trip abroad

YEP!