Is the new Stelvio a better bike than the V85???

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Having just spent the last 7 days and 1100 miles on the Stelvio, 5 days riding the Welsh roads, some motorway work and a couple of days in the Yorkshire dales, I've come to some conclusions about the two bikes.
In March of this year I swapped my Mandello S for the Stelvio, I didn't think I needed two adventure style bikes, so swapped the V85 for a V7 Stone corsa. Big mistake, I should have kept the V85. Whilst they are both Adventure style bikes they are very different.
Whilst the Stelvio is a fair bit more powerful than the V85, it's also bigger and a fair bit heavier. A distinct advantage on the Motorway and fast flowing A&B roads not so much on the gnarly back roads of the Welsh mountains and the Yorkshire dales.
On those narrow moors roads the V85 has plenty of power to traverse them with ease, it handles well over those roads and the suspension is nicely compliant. The Stelvio on the other hand is a bit more of a beast it takes a bit more manhandling and the suspension can have a tendency to chuck you around a bit. Overall I would say the V85 is a better bike for these roads.
Riding through towns and villages the fueling on the Stelvio is just about perfect and rarely does the clutch need to be feathered to make smooth progress, on the other hand I always found the V85 to be a little snatchy.
Good A&B roads are where the Stelvio really comes into it's own. The engine is an absolute peach and supremely tractable in every gear from around 2800 rpm. It doesn't shift direction quite as easily as the V85 but always feels rock solid. Overtaking large vehicles doesn't take any planning , if you've room to go, go. I always felt some similar overtakes on the V85 needed a little more care.
Comfort wise I think the V85 has the slight edge. Suspension is more compliant, you're sat slightly more upright and there's a little more leg room. The seat is also a little more comfortable.
Overall I think they're both fantastic bikes.
Would I swap back to a V85 from the Stelvio?.... Definitely not....Would I have another V85 to run alongside the Stelvio?.... Definitely.

In fact it's a good job I came home yesterday (Sunday) rather than today as I pass Teasdales on the way home.

To put it into a bit more context. At Dent, on the Saturday, Austin W took us on a cracking ride out mostly on unclassified roads. There where a number of times when I wished I was on the V85. Riding the 90 miles home on Sunday on good A&B roads I couldn't help but marvel at what a cracking bike the new Stelvio is.
 
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Would I swap back to a V85 from the Stelvio?.... Definitely not....Would I have another V85 to run alongside the Stelvio?.... Definitely.

In fact it's a good job I came home yesterday (Sunday) rather than today as I pass Teasdales on the way home.
:DD :JB (y)
 
I feel the same with my GS, and my new Stelvio. The GS is the better bike for crossing contents on flowing A roads (or with luggage and passenger) as the extra size and power is useful.
Planning doing the Ring of Kerry and some of the Ireland Atlantic Way, and because the roads will be more minor i can't wait to use the Stelvio 🤔😁. Being lighter and lower geared it'll be mush nicer than lugging a big heavy GS around .
 
we have an upcoming comparison video the Stelvio v my brothers Gen1 V85 (Ronald Mcdonald) and Daves Gen2 (Green with tubeless), as soon as I can get fit enough
looking forward to that one. get well soon.
 
I’m still wondering about selling my GS and getting a V85.

Thoughts?
 
I pretty much concur, wrinkleyowlie. I like my V85 enough that it's going nowhere but I'm really bonding with the Stelvio, especially now after backing off the damping F&R then adding better pegs, tall comfort seat, and panniers. I plan on riding across country in two weeks to the Guzzi rally in Oregon and have been trying to decide what bike to take. Leaning toward taking the Stelvio though.
When a few of my friends questioned why I have two similar bikes that overlap so much, I told them they are very different and both have their own charm.

Oh my Mike, hoping they pass and there are never any more!
 
I’m still wondering about selling my GS and getting a V85.

Thoughts?

Do it.

Can always go back.

My only top tip ….. go for a tubeless one

Fab bikes.

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I’m still wondering about selling my GS and getting a V85.

Thoughts?

Did this two years ago. Two great bikes but very happy with the decision
 
Same as pretty much elsewhere

Due to ever increasing older people living longer and drawing on pensions longer they need more people to work to fund the elderly

Almost all Western countries are suffering from a lack of babies being born (please look it up)...this lack again affects jobs and who holds up the retired folks etc...less babies = smaller workforce which equals shrinking economies

So open borders and bring in millions of cheap labour.

I’m still wondering about selling my GS and getting a V85.

Thoughts?
Ever ride an R100 GS? A V85TT reminds me a lot of my old 1991 R100GS, which was probably my favourite motorcycle. Only the V85 is modern and better in every way.
 
They are lovely bikes, love my Guardia D'Onore v85tt.....air cooled twin, limited tech but just enough, enough power to be fun, VERY comfortable bike capable of long days riding......

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I really liked my V85TT. My bike of choice for small meandering roads in Cumbria and N Yorks (regularly round the Dent/Hawes/Buttertubs/Kettlewell area some of you know so well). Nicer than a heavy GS on these roads,
Owned it for a couple of years and put 13k miles on it (I have a GS as well)
It always put a smile on my face. All day comfy. Great on "B" roads. Doddle to service (apart from accessing the air filter, and the gearbox drain plug!)
BUT
It did sometimes feel like it needed a bit more power, a bit more weather protection, slightly better handling on faster roads (handling is awesome on tighter stuff and B roads)

The V100 Stelvio is just that. A BIT MORE. It still has most of the character, it definitely has the "Guzzi feel".

Time will tell, but so far, just a couple of minor niggles for me to sort, and I'm besotted with the Stelvio :)

Off to Ring of Kerry soon. Can't wait. Definitely a road for a V85TT...or a Stelvio :)
 
Nice write up but the V85 can pink in hot weather. I've felt it ours others must be in denial on a hot day?
 
Mine (2019/E4 model) used to pink really badly. Extensive mods to exhaust and a V twin boost plus a software upgrade seems to have cured it. In fact those following me at Dent recently complained the bike must be running very rich as it stinks of petrol. A K& N is in the offing I reckon.
 
Slightly off topic I know @wrinkleyowlie but do you prefer the Stelvio to the Mandello?Seating position,comfort,weight etc?

Kimbo
The main reason I swapped the Mandello for the Stelvio was the seating position. For me the cramped position of my damaged left leg on the Mandello, made it very difficult to ride more than 40 miles before having to get off and walk around to get the blood flowing in my left leg (permanently damaged and swollen by cellulitis). I find the riding position on the Stelvio better for me in general than the V100.
 


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