madmartin
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Sounds lovely and smooth to me. Very quiet ..perfect.
Is this normal !
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Sounds lovely and smooth to me. Very quiet ..perfect.
L'Escargot
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I certainly do !! Wouldn't think of otherwise ! How about a suggestion ?
Everyone with a problem such as the gearbox meet up somewhere centrally so that no one has to travel too far,and then the doubters etc on here could see for them selves that its not imagination,we could then sign a petition and present it to BMW !!
The doubters could also maybe have a ride on the clunkers and give opinions !
Wouldn't hurt would it ?
Somehow doubt it'll happen though.
Everyone with a problem such as the gearbox meet up somewhere centrally so that no one has to travel too far,and then the doubters etc on here could see for them selves that its not imagination,we could then sign a petition and present it to BMW !!
The doubters could also maybe have a ride on the clunkers and give opinions !
Wouldn't hurt would it ?
Somehow doubt it'll happen though.
Titto
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Off onto a slip road road from a dual carriageway for example , I don't go blipping the throttle from 6th, blip, 5th, blip, 4th, blip 3rd, blip 2nd, blip etc. I tend to just slow with the brakes / engine braking and block change down at the last moment.
The odd downshift here and there then yes, absolutely blip the throttle. But you don't have to do in all situations.
My old one wouldn't even block change without crashing and banging. This new bike is just like my old twin cam. V nice.
I don't see why so much nay saying on here, clearly there are some issues with some bikes. Not all. Some.
The point I'm making above is that it's not always necessary to blip and although helpful is not the only possible solution to the issues some of us are having.
...how many of you who blip the throttle had to adjust your engine oil level to improve it? I recall it made massive improvements for many, myself included on the previous piece of junk I had.
So please don't insinuate it's down to that, it isn't.
Incidentally, on the defective bike I had - block changing or blipping down in steps made absolutely no difference in the clunks and crunches. I tried and tested it. Then tried and tested on multiple other gs's so that I could arm myself with enough evidence to take to bmw. This new one, as I've said before, is the total opposite and works perfectly.
The odd downshift here and there then yes, absolutely blip the throttle. But you don't have to do in all situations.
My old one wouldn't even block change without crashing and banging. This new bike is just like my old twin cam. V nice.
I don't see why so much nay saying on here, clearly there are some issues with some bikes. Not all. Some.
The point I'm making above is that it's not always necessary to blip and although helpful is not the only possible solution to the issues some of us are having.
...how many of you who blip the throttle had to adjust your engine oil level to improve it? I recall it made massive improvements for many, myself included on the previous piece of junk I had.
So please don't insinuate it's down to that, it isn't.
Incidentally, on the defective bike I had - block changing or blipping down in steps made absolutely no difference in the clunks and crunches. I tried and tested it. Then tried and tested on multiple other gs's so that I could arm myself with enough evidence to take to bmw. This new one, as I've said before, is the total opposite and works perfectly.
Fixed for you. I've no doubt your bike has issues, but to say that ALL new GSA's have a problem, is wrong.
Yep I can choose to be clunky or not - I almost always blip down the box, sometimes block shift down but it isn't as smooth as the blip-blip-blip-blip techniques on the LC. My upshifts are never 'lazy', rapid changes with just a 'dip' of the clutch are best. Lazy old-man touring type shifts are not the way to change gear on the LC.
L'Escargot
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I was offered £9,500.Mines the Enduro version with wire wheels and all the other gadgets,and that price included the Brand new Panniers !! As stated earlier,its done 5565 with now an extra 450 on the new engine !!
That's not a great price, so why not call round a few dealers? Someone out there will be more hungry for the business, you just have to find them.
That's not a great price, so why not call round a few dealers? Someone out there will be more hungry for the business, you just have to find them.
Maybe
But he's got a flawed bike................one with a new engine, but with a speedo reading 5500 miles, coupled to a clunky gearbox
In reality who is wanting to buy that
I wouldn't want it
Yellow Peril
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As an observation they don't appear to be holding there value very well.
On the gearbox BMW do seem incapable of building a good gearbox these days, the k suffered, some of the cars have problems, have the bean counters got to much sway?
I'm a whiner and will gladly say yeah i am if its not right, infact I will go down every avenue possible, its hard to earn £15k to pay for a bike outright and i want to be treated in the same manner as i treat my customers.
BMW do not replace bikes n engines if there's nothing wrong, so I'm whining for a genuine reason, as it seems I'm not the only one with issues.
I didn't want to get rid i was adamant I'd sit it out until the bike is like any other bike you pay £15k for.
I'm sorry you feel I'm a whiner, what you feel acceptable is probably different to myself .
it cant be a gearbox problem or very unlikley.. its a clutch problem due to the majority of happy customers, at worst i could have lived with the box/clutch on my old bike and i dont for one minute think other manufacturers would have looked after their customers like me with BMW suppling new bikes,
Steve you hit the nail on the head, i don't think its a gearbox issue either, more clutch because with the engine off, engage 1st gear, pull clutch in and hit the starter the bike drags, also clutch in and engage 1st and try to push the bike around there's a lot of resistance.
Such a shame
I agree, not a great price with loss of panniers , I also suggest you shop around, maybe the new engine HAS devalued your bike.. Or just a greedy or unsure dealer..
k1300sporscheeater
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Ding Dong,im behind you 100%,they once were sold on solid engineering,but since the 2004/5 change of approach they have been sold on very clever marketing.Great when/if going but no one feels that sense of impending doom like a GS owner.
Maybe
But he's got a flawed bike................one with a new engine, but with a speedo reading 5500 miles, coupled to a clunky gearbox
In reality who is wanting to buy that
I wouldn't want it
It really is flawed. By offering such a low price, this particular dealer has brought light to the fact that a bike with a replacement engine will be worth far less than one with the original engine.
If I was in the same position, there's no way I'd accept a new engine.
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Now my clutch has been replaced the gearbox on my 2014 is crisp and crunch free, definately nicer than the slightly sloppy change and slack final drive on the two twin cams I had. persevere Ding Dong and read em the riot act.
That's not a great price, so why not call round a few dealers? Someone out there will be more hungry for the business, you just have to find them.
Market is flooded with WC's look on autotrader every dealer has stock from the rt issue to move on, enduro version is valued less than the TE, plus he's the second owner so this will add to there valuation, but in fairness they sold him the bike with corrosion and that should have not happened.
With you on this one bud if it's not right then too right get it sorted any product I buy whatever it is if it ain't right it's going back.
Terry
I agree as well.. Mines been back a few times (too many really) first time I got to know the service manager & fitter by name, don't normally have the time to mess around but at least they got mine right eventually..
Wanna trade in for the new keyless either GS or GSA but I'm frightened I'll get one with a crap clutch/gearbox..
Hammy
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I'm on my second GS LC and the first one had a shocking gearbox amongst other issues. The bike was changed for a 2014 bike and gear changes were 100 times better. I don't blip the throttle, tap my head and rub my belly....I just change gear.
I didn't change my riding style. It's just some bike perform differently. It really is as simple as that.
I didn't change my riding style. It's just some bike perform differently. It really is as simple as that.
You lot crack me up
Picture this....
If you bought a brand new car for £14k and it changed gear like a GS WC or had corrosion issues or water pump leaks or the front subframe was misaligned
You complained repeatedly, along with your fellow cohorts
The manufacturer then changed the engine or the bike once or twice & in some cases it was no better or maybe even worse than the original car
Would you still be defending the car to the hilt or saying the faults were just a characteristic of that brand of car
Would you bollox
Some of you need a reality check, ask for your money back & just buy something else
Only then, BMW might improve the R&D and QC protocols
Picture this....
If you bought a brand new car for £14k and it changed gear like a GS WC or had corrosion issues or water pump leaks or the front subframe was misaligned
You complained repeatedly, along with your fellow cohorts
The manufacturer then changed the engine or the bike once or twice & in some cases it was no better or maybe even worse than the original car
Would you still be defending the car to the hilt or saying the faults were just a characteristic of that brand of car
Would you bollox
Some of you need a reality check, ask for your money back & just buy something else
Only then, BMW might improve the R&D and QC protocols
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