Well said!
I have never owned such a Great GS. I guess it's not perfect, but who wants the perfect bike!
Never owned a GS with a good gearbox, probably never will.
But it ain't going to stop me enjoying this one.
Is this normal !
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Well said!
I have never owned such a Great GS. I guess it's not perfect, but who wants the perfect bike!
Never owned a GS with a good gearbox, probably never will.
But it ain't going to stop me enjoying this one.
Yellow Peril
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Being thick but could this all be caused by the grade of oil?
As to engineers riding techniques well sorry utter crap if you have to ride like that to get smooth gear changes then there is something wrong,sorry but that brings back memories of crash gear boxes back in mid 70's and I sincerely hope that modern gearboxes have moved on a little since then.
As to engineers riding techniques well sorry utter crap if you have to ride like that to get smooth gear changes then there is something wrong,sorry but that brings back memories of crash gear boxes back in mid 70's and I sincerely hope that modern gearboxes have moved on a little since then.
Well I've owned many gs's with perfect gearbox's ! And paying £17-18k for a gsa than stating its not perfect, just highlights that there's maybe lots of flawed bikes out there that the owners accept these traits as characteristics, in fairness is that wrong of owners, Maybe not. We all have different expectations of things we buy, however Nick i to can put up with some niggles believe it or not
but the gearbox 
If your happy with it Nick that's all that matters and i do hope you enjoy many trouble free smiles on olive .
uncle buck
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You'll only keep it a month though
When the ashtray's full it'll be up for sale
Not before it's been belonged up
uncle buck
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That should read bling
Yeah I know, was just saying what's always been used in mine in case oil type does effect the clutch drag - perhaps adding a touch of car oil might give just enough slip to improve things? Don't blame me if it buggers your clutch though
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Well I've owned many gs's with perfect gearbox's ! And paying £17-18k for a gsa than stating its not perfect, just highlights that there's maybe lots of flawed bikes out there that the owners accept these traits as characteristics, in fairness is that wrong of owners, Maybe not. We all have different expectations of things we buy, however Nick i to can put up with some niggles believe it or not
If your happy with it Nick that's all that matters and i do hope you enjoy many trouble free smiles on olive .
The watercooled is easily the best gs and the gearchange on mine is very good now albeit i did have issues myself. Just get yours down the dealers and stop moaning on here that the bikes are a crock of shite. The old twin cam gearchange was no great shakes and the new one is very good, its lost the sloppiness and makes for a sportier ride. These bikes must sell multiple times what the competition do and for good reason too.
One thing that helps sell these is the excellent pcp deals, far greater than other manufactures and as majority of buyers (not myself tho) choose this option tis a no brainier, BMW (certain) bikes used to and probably still do hold strong value over the completion.
Plus there are some that buy the bike for badge snobbery, personally i don't buy into that shite and I'm far from the typical BMW owner, apart from now whinging like a fat bird on the blob .
One thing i must say, the dealer back up is far greater than the competition ten fold, and that alone is worth its weight in gold.
You accept the gearbox is good or good enough ! but until you ride something that changes smoothly like Giles, than you realise the gearbox ain't actually that good at all.
Agreed - went out on my GSA WC today and did 180 miles in fairly crap conditions and loved every minute - IMO the best GS so far
Gear change no better/worse than my last hex head, bit of a clunk going from neutral into first but then never think about the gear change as it does what it should
Maybe I am just lucky as my previous GS WC had no gear change issues either
BBB61
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Looking at the Ducati forums it seems they have enough issues of their own to worry about.
Ducati have always been plaque'd with issues, my treble-9 was very special, but it had a mind of its own, the last generation Multi is a top bike now with all the issues sorted, but discontinued just as they got it right, only to start again with a beta model in a few months !
Agreed - went out on my GSA WC today and did 180 miles in fairly crap conditions and loved every minute - IMO the best GS so far
Gear change no better/worse than my last hex head, bit of a clunk going from neutral into first but then never think about the gear change as it does what it should
Maybe I am just lucky as my previous GS WC had no gear change issues either
Yep i agree Paul, i too went out on Pidcocks demo GSA and the gearbox was like night n day compared to mine in fact the box was as good as any hexhead just snick snick, i was very impressed.
yankeedoodledandy
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You're not paying enough attention if you think they sorted it. Gas tanks still swell from ethanol, rear brake is still weak and prone to failure, tank slappers if you load it wrong, front end problems with the skyhook, and you can still get one with a bad transmission (considering relative sales volumes your odds are higher than w the gslc). Many have no issues, but its certainly far from bulletproof.
my mates done 15k and apart from the rear brake, now having the updated bleed nipple on abs pump, its perfectttttt and sounds very angry.
What year bike was yours !
yankeedoodledandy
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So according to this logic you're applying to the Multistrada, because my 2013 GS-LC with 14k miles has had no issues and shifts fine, all GS-LC are perfect and issue-free, right? So we should close this thread?
I thought LOGIC was something magicians apply to there acts as I once saw a magician performing, he said its not magic its LOGIC
But than again Yankee the logic you was applying was that i was not paying enough intention, far from it my friend, every bike has issues some you live with some you hate to live with, all manufactures are chasing the bean counters, techno is getting advanced and with that comes issues and a short life expectancy, lets be honest there ain't no business making things that last for ever like the other bike I've got, we are now in a viscious circle .
Take it easy fella.
Out for a run yesterday,5 wc gs's, 3 with gearbox /clutch issues the worst one was a standard 2015 bike
patzx12
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My 13 GS was a clunker, sent it back twice to BMW. The second time they told me the bike qualified for a thrust washer upgrade.
After this was done the gearchange was fine, still on the clunky end of the scale at low revs.
My 15 GSA has a good gearchange, slightly better than my fixed 13 bike but not much of an improvement. This may be down to the smoother flywheel.
I hated the gearchange on the 13 bike before the mod but totally happy after and with the 14 bike.
But I do miss that lighter crank engine.
After this was done the gearchange was fine, still on the clunky end of the scale at low revs.
My 15 GSA has a good gearchange, slightly better than my fixed 13 bike but not much of an improvement. This may be down to the smoother flywheel.
I hated the gearchange on the 13 bike before the mod but totally happy after and with the 14 bike.
But I do miss that lighter crank engine.
Same bikes, same manufacturing process, so why the difference !
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