it IS possible to disable the indicator self-cancel

I also don't think the timer is long enough.

If only a press of the button would reset the timer for a further period I would be happy. This was the case on my K 1100.
 
Skipssong said:
IAM and the Police Riders Handbook require you to put your indicator on at the III (3) marker on the run up to the motorway junction you are leaving. If you do this the self cancel will have kicked in before you reach the I (1) marker. Other road users will, reasonably, assume you have changed your mind not that you have an ill designed apparently non configurable BuMW. ..
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What will they think if you put the indicator back on?
 
I flick the indicator as I pas the III mark it last till I hit the slip road so no problem.Seems distance related,not speed.Also roundabouts I signal as I pass the junction prior to the one I am gonna take unless I am going all the way around i.e 180 degrees,which is no problem so it either lasts or i give another press.No probs for me.Do you think BMW would really set the duration to be anything other than to comply with,in this case,the UK Highway code :nenau
They aint so stupid i think.
 
Skipssong said:
IAM and the Police Riders Handbook require you to put your indicator on at the III (3) marker on the run up to the motorway junction you are leaving. If you do this the self cancel will have kicked in before you reach the I (1) marker. Other road users will, reasonably, assume you have changed your mind not that you have an ill designed apparently non configurable BuMW. In short -its Dangerous.

I asked my dealer - "computer says no"
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The IAM and the Police Riders Handbook also require (suggest is maybe a better word, as neither can require you to do anything at all) that you not to exceed the speed limit. If not, the law certainly does.

Do you follow that requirement, too?

Or do you travel at a speed you feel appropriate, following 'The System' at all times, wrapped in your cloak of earnest self-righteousness?
 
Wapping said:
The IAM and the Police Riders Handbook also require (suggest is maybe a better word, as neither can require you to do anything at all) you not to exceed the speed limit. If not, the law certainly does.

Do you follow that requirement, too?

Or do you travel at a speed you feel appropriate, following 'The System' at all times, wrapped in your cloak of earnest self-righteousness?
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LOL you ever been on a sunday run with the IAM :eek:(Well IAM members)
 
I find the self-cancelling indicators work well for overtaking on Continental motorways at 120-140 kph. At all other times they are a PITA. I agree with Skipssong regarding UK motorway junctions, where dicking about with the indicator switch is a needless complication. If I remember correctly, they flash a fixed number of times if the road speed is over 35kph, otherwise they stay on forever. A search of this forum might well produce the number.
 
Bear said:
I find the self-cancelling indicators work well for overtaking on Continental motorways at 120-140 kph. At all other times they are a PITA. I agree with Skipssong regarding UK motorway junctions, where dicking about with the indicator switch is a needless complication. If I remember correctly, they flash a fixed number of times if the road speed is over 35kph, otherwise they stay on forever. A search of this forum might well produce the number.
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So they are OK on Continental motorway junctions, which carry similar 300 / 200 / 100 meter posts, but not in the UK? Or for overtaking on Continental motorways at between 75 and 85 miles an hour. Do you not go over 70 in the UK then?

If you find it a needless complication flicking the indicator switch again, which you know will go off if you turn it on religiously at 300 meters, then it's easy to see why you might remember something wrong..... A search of the owner's handbook will give you your answer. So much more reliable than UKGSer 1200 Technical section.....

To save you the trouble:

Turn indicators

Switch on the ignition. (an instruction for the really hard of thinking, I guess?)

The turn indicators are cancelled automatically after you have ridden for approximately 10 seconds, or covered a distance of about 200 m.
 
I too find it a PITA especially on large motorway type interchanges.
A contact at BMW tells me that on "later bikes" it is possible to extend the timing or switch it off altogether. I have asked if he can clarify at what point this change came about. I am hoping my 2009 GSA can be altered, but our job bikes are two years old, so we may be stuck with that.
 
Hey guys, don't knock the self cancelling system on BMW bikes. It's a lot better than the system fitted to most of their cars. That seems to ensure the indicators NEVER come on until the car is part way around the corner.
 
andyclift said:
Hey guys, don't knock the self cancelling system on BMW bikes. It's a lot better than the system fitted to most of their cars. That seems to ensure the indicators NEVER come on until the car is part way around the corner.
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You are lucky.

Most vehicles in London do not appear to have them fitted at all.... or they work in reverse, light up left....turn right.....

They do though work quite well in 'Park anywhere' mode, flashing together. This is a useful feature as it gives a cloak of invisibility to the driver, too....
 
andyclift said:
Hey guys, don't knock the self cancelling system on BMW bikes. It's a lot better than the system fitted to most of their cars. That seems to ensure the indicators NEVER come on until the car is part way around the corner.
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I belive indicators on most makes of 4 wheel vehicles are an 'optional extra'
and being uncool never get selected when ordering.:augie
 
karnevil said:
Handbook for my 2006 1200 states the indicators stay on for 10 seconds or 200 M.
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For the longer, or the shorter of the two?

Assuming it's the longer, then for it to go off on the motorway 200m after it was switched on means that the bike was dong about 40mph.

Assuming its the shorter, then it's easy to realise that if you hit it once at 300m, then you hit it again at 100m.
 
Having driven bikes with no indicators and various flavours of self-cancelling I can't see what the fuss is about. Occasionally I need to press the button again, which is no real hardship, but most of the time the self-cancelling system works a treat.

I can't make any sense of the earlier suggestion that it's bloody dangerous. Forgetting to turn them off is bloody dangerous.
 
Cooperman said:
What's worse - an indicator that self cancels or one that stays on :eek:
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My first GS had an even better one that would switch the left flasher on about every mile or so. This, unsurprisingly, significantly increased the number of cars pulling out on me.
 
andyclift said:
Having driven bikes with no indicators and various flavours of self-cancelling I can't see what the fuss is about. Occasionally I need to press the button again, which is no real hardship, but most of the time the self-cancelling system works a treat.

I can't make any sense of the earlier suggestion that it's bloody dangerous. Forgetting to turn them off is bloody dangerous.
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I have to disagree; an indicator that cancels just as the bike is approaching the junction that they were activated for is a nuisance at best, confusing at worst.
I prefer to put them "on" when I judge they should be "on", & it's my job to cancel them - period.
 
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