John's tuning chip, don't know if I actually need one!

Hello friends :)

I can send a chip for R1150 twin by free cost, only for measurement the AFR, torque and power at open and at close loop.
If Roger think that there is a adapt by mod chip, that is a chance to see it, study it and submit it to us here.
I can make anything he want to AFR at each rpm one by one at any throttle position for any situation. Without anything else hardwares, no bigger fuel pump, no resistors at sensors, no power commander, no LC-1-2 and those many hardwares. These external hardwares works by the stock maps in to ECU, the only way to changes the AFR is by confusing the ECU by different signals from sensors (air intake temp sensor, air density sensor, lambda sensor, oil temperature sensor).
I can make it only by new maps in to ECU, as do factories.
Also i make new maps to timing igniton advance to sparks, different settings for any petrols, if it is 89 octane until 100 octane, also i make variable settings (as factories maded) to cold, normal, little warm and very hot temperatures, there are 20 maps in to a simple chip in to an old ECU like Bosh motronic 2.2 and 2.4. This can not being by an expensive external harware like power commader.

Maybe the confuse in USA is by different petrols, there are many type of petrols not just different octane petrols.. but many different grades of gasoline, i think that make a confuse to ECU. I dont knew that before two months, now i know what happen, and i send different chips (by difference maps to ignition spark advance) as need and told the biker from US.
Sorry for my poor english, i m working alone. One guy from US order from me, two chips, one for US petrols, and one for Mexico petrols, he had problem by stock chip.

Also i want to say, that the cost is very low price.
This does not mean that it is a simple or cheap work, just i managed to produce by low cost and i don't need large profits from selling it.
The results are as described from all users.
 
Hello John

Im off on my 1150gs shortly to go the dyno house to see if I can use their facilities and try the chip on the rolling road.you have to book in several weeks in advance.
I want to make a dyno run both before and after the installation.
It will be running closed loop, using the lambda probe,a decat pipe and a standard silencer and standard air filter using regular unleaded 95 ron,not super unleaded 98ron,this way will ensure maximum efficiency.
I am particularly interested to see how the AFR will perform whilst the engine is held at a steady rpm ,probably around 4k rpm,this is about 80mph in top gear, an ideal cruising speed.what do you think I should set the link in the fusebox to, for this configuration?
I believe in real world figures,either its suitable or not, if it runs in the ideal area,thats great,but if its over rich or leans out, then the chip will be removed.The dyno will show this,its a very expensive piece if equipment so should yield good results.
Re the comments from Roger about the AFR shifting back to standard settings,even after the install of a revised map, is this possible with this ECU?.
The ECU in these machines is quite old school, and I didn't think this possible from the motronic?Unless other information is held elsewhere on the pcb,allowing the processor to manage long term fuel trim beyond its designed parameters ignoring the new chip.?
regs Pauly
 
What GS have you, single or twins ?
Yes motronic have a routine for close loop AFR.
You can see that at dyno.
 
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The ECU in these machines is quite old school, and I didn't think this possible from the motronic?Unless other information is held elsewhere on the pcb,allowing the processor to manage long term fuel trim beyond its designed parameters ignoring the new chip.?
regs Pauly

You can see the results of close loop AFR at dyno or by wideband.

Take a look at this, is the same work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi_cQODTO8c
 
What GS have you, single or twins ?
Yes motronic have a routine for close loop AFR.
You can see that at dyno.
Ive a gs1150 2001 single spark.
Ive been to the dyno house and they are ok with my self mechanicing idea.All I need to do now is order the eeprom , what is the best channel to order the chip. ?cheers Pauly
 
I send to you two chips (stage 4 and stage 5) by free cost, for show the results of dyno.
Send me your address please via pm.
Thanks :)
 
I'm really interested in this guys as that is exactly the same as my current set up, de cat pipe, standard pipe and standard air filter. Fingers crossed the gains are good because I want one :D
 
I'm really interested in this guys as that is exactly the same as my current set up, de cat pipe, standard pipe and standard air filter. Fingers crossed the gains are good because I want one :D
well don't expect miracles,it may make it smoother, but I reckon its at the expense of fuel economy, I would guess that its whacked a bit of extra gas in here and there. Johns right though they do trim these things down to run on a whiff of petrol.I wouldn't necessarily go for the RT throttle body tubes, after a chat today with a fella from motorworks, he reckons all it will do is increase the top end,he also said a lot of RT owners are fitting GS tubes to their 1150 RTs as it makes the midrange driveability much better which is where in reality you will be doing most of your riding.Unless you've a trackbike.
 
I send to you two chips (stage 4 and stage 5) by free cost, for show the results of dyno.
Send me your address please via pm.
Thanks :)
I don't mind paying for the chip,i don't want to be biased towards anyone.I'll quite happily put the bike on the dyno for you and see what happens.pm sent.
If its a negative or positive report I will say so,black is black and white is white.
I can only post up what ive found.i'll have to take a day off work to faff round with this lot.
 
well don't expect miracles,it may make it smoother, but I reckon its at the expense of fuel economy, I would guess that its whacked a bit of extra gas in here and there. Johns right though they do trim these things down to run on a whiff of petrol.I wouldn't necessarily go for the RT throttle body tubes, after a chat today with a fella from motorworks, he reckons all it will do is increase the top end,he also said a lot of RT owners are fitting GS tubes to their 1150 RTs as it makes the midrange driveability much better which is where in reality you will be doing most of your riding.Unless you've a trackbike.

GS tubes on an rt has always been a popular mod, I wouldn't swop the GS air tubes to rs/rt tubes, but I'll take a bit of smoothness and no surging if I can get it. The surging on mine isn't bad at all, but I had an RT that had chronic surging issues.
 
well i'll get the chip and bung it on the dyno,I don't want it to feck the bike up though, mines running quite sweetly.I had an rt1150 once, that sat at 100mph totally without a fuss,smooth as a silk cod piece.I just wish I recapture the same smoothness again but on the gs.
 
well i'll get the chip and bung it on the dyno,I don't want it to feck the bike up though, mines running quite sweetly.I had an rt1150 once, that sat at 100mph totally without a fuss,smooth as a silk cod piece.I just wish I recapture the same smoothness again but on the gs.

If your bike is in good tune, add an LC-2 set to 13.8:1 or an AF-XIED in series with your O2 sensor. You won't believe how that shift of lambda transforms your machine. Here is how I installed the LC-1 on mine: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=765485&highlight=Wideband
 
well i'll get the chip and bung it on the dyno,I don't want it to feck the bike up though, mines running quite sweetly.I had an rt1150 once, that sat at 100mph totally without a fuss,smooth as a silk cod piece.I just wish I recapture the same smoothness again but on the gs.
My Rt surged like a bastard at low speed, but exactly like your old one at higher speed, 'twas feckin quick too compared to the GS, if they are the same engine I don't understand how they can feck it up so badly! I guess the main difference is in the transmission to make the GS better at low speed?
 
My Rt surged like a bastard at low speed, but exactly like your old one at higher speed, 'twas feckin quick too compared to the GS, if they are the same engine I don't understand how they can feck it up so badly! I guess the main difference is in the transmission to make the GS better at low speed?

No the difference between engine RT GS, is on the camshaft. The RT has bigger camshafts.
Also is on the intake tubes and the maps in to ECU.

By GS tubes or RT, you just "correct" the lean AFR in to RT at low revs of rpm. But after few miles, the ECU make and adapt and then will have surge at low revs of rpm.
You can do the same, by remaping the ECU, no needed to change the intake tubes.

If you want to fit the GS tubes, must change the RT chip in to ECU, by a GS chip, and must change the CCP from 30 87 (RT), to 30,87 87a (GS).
After this, you will have better consumption, better torque at low and middles, but lower Horsepower at high rpm.
 
No the difference between engine RT GS, is on the camshaft. The RT has bigger camshafts.
Also is on the intake tubes and the maps in to ECU.

By GS tubes or RT, you just "correct" the lean AFR in to RT at low revs of rpm. But after few miles, the ECU make and adapt and then will have surge at low revs of rpm.
You can do the same, by remaping the ECU, no needed to change the intake tubes.

If you want to fit the GS tubes, must change the RT chip in to ECU, by a GS chip, and must change the CCP from 30 87 (RT), to 30,87 87a (GS).
After this, you will have better consumption, better torque at low and middles, but lower Horsepower at high rpm.

I've sold the RT john and am back with a GS, couldn't live with the RT. Awesome bike, but servo brakes did my head in and it was just a bit boring.
 
Oh Yes. I agree. I have a R1100GS 1993 year model and although it is very heavy, I enjoy it (solo) every day in small and large distances :)

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It is my lovely bike EVER !!:beerjug:
 
Oh Yes. I agree. I have a R1100GS 1993 year model and although it is very heavy, I enjoy it (solo) every day in small and large distances :)

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It is my lovely bike EVER !!:beerjug:

Nice!

How do you get on with the temperature in Sunny Greece & the effect on the GS engine? We don't have the same problem here in north Scotland but on a recent trip to The Alps I was getting a bit concerned stuck in slow traffic in 35 degrees!!
 
I have no problem as usual, only a heat when i drive in traffic :)

I need a fan back in to oil cooler, i m looking for one from R1100RT Police. :)

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