Just an observation, but……

[longdog]

I have been looking around for an R1200GS to perhaps replace my Super Tenere, (I’ve not decided yet), but when I look around, there are loads of low mileage R1250GS about but very few 2017-18 R1200GS.
It seems to me that maybe the R1250GS is not quite as desirable as the older bike. I’m not having a pop here, this is a genuine observation from a potential buyer.

 

[Mr Bean]

Can't think why, the 1250 is a better bike and I've had 2 1200 lc's too.

 

[yofi]

Had both, both good, 1250 easily superior (not by a country mile, but a clear step up).

Possible reasons might be that those that own newer bikes also have access to other bikes or have put in those early excitement miles on the 1200. Dunno. Bottom line is, get the 1250 if you can.

 

[Arsey]

It seems that quite a few just blindly renew their bike every few years before the warranty runs out even if they don’t really use the bike .
I think covid has curtailed some travels on here so perhaps that’s another reason some don’t want an £18k bike gathering dust .
Many seem to have bought a more simple and cheap fun bike for local pottering and discovered you don’t need an SOS button and a tv screen to have fun on two wheels…just witness all the £6k RE Interceptors and the like on the roads.
And discovering you don’t need a 250kg tech fest is quite liberating .

 

[yofi]

It seems that quite a few just blindly renew their bike every few years before the warranty runs out even if they don’t really use the bike .
I think covid has curtailed some travels on here so perhaps that’s another reason some don’t want an £18k bike gathering dust .
Many seem to have bought a more simple and cheap fun bike for local pottering and discovered you don’t need an SOS button and a tv screen to have fun on two wheels…just witness all the £6k RE Interceptors and the like on the roads.

Pretty much the case for me. The 1200 was my only bike but now I have the 1250 and a crf250l - there's a lot of fun to be had from wringing the neck off a small engine and not having to 'control' the mass of a big bike. So, my miles are now split between both.

 

[wessie]

Another factor is that in 2020, loads of traders from the EU came over and were taking the part exchanges from dealers and private sale bikes, paying good money due to the very good exchange rate from their point of view. Many of these would have been the 3 year old in 2020, end of warranty bikes traded in for new 1250 bikes. All with happy owners in Belgium etc. now and never to reappear in UK showrooms.

 

[CPJS]

Pretty much the case for me. The 1200 was my only bike but now I have the 1250 and a crf250l - there's a lot of fun to be had from wringing the neck off a small engine and not having to 'control' the mass of a big bike. So, my miles are now split between both.

I have covered all bases, '17 GS, RE 650 GT, CRF250l, BSA B25SS.
Just retired at 62, happy days ahead.

 

[yoyo]

I have been looking around for an R1200GS to perhaps replace my Super Tenere, (I’ve not decided yet).

I'm thinking of the same thing but a GSA rather than a GS, It's purely a heart over head thing but then I ride my S10 and wonder why would I bother, most of my riding is observing on BikeSafe, ERS and ROSPA the S1O is ideal for that but I'm still drawn to the GSA.



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[leadfarmer]

There are only recent 1250s left ‘cos all the older ones and the 1200s have already exploded or corroded into dust












No, just kidding, had my 1200 for 5 years from new and still love it

Arsey is right that a lot of folks change regularly, often at the end of the garantie (see above), then I guess folks buying a recent used bike are buying them to keep

I personally can’t justify swapping mine for a 1250, yes they are a bit better, but not enough to spend the cash to change and I don’t really like any of the new paint jobs anyway

And I’ve got a smaller, simpler second bike too

 

[DevonAl]

Apologies for the thread hijack, I am thinking about upgrading from my ‘06 model to an LC(2015/6) and was wondering if you can actually get a basic model without all the bits that fail?

Al.

 

[richardbd]

Apologies for the thread hijack, I am thinking about upgrading from my ‘06 model to an LC(2015/6) and was wondering if you can actually get a basic model without all the bits that fail?

Al.

You can. The engines still corrode and blow up though…

 

[CPJS]

I'm thinking of the same thing but a GSA rather than a GS, It's purely a heart over head thing but then I ride my S10 and wonder why would I bother, most of my riding is observing on BikeSafe, ERS and ROSPA the S1O is ideal for that but I'm still drawn to the GSA.



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Buy a GSA s/hand, If you don't like it, sell it. It's only a bike.

 

[DevonAl]

You can. The engines still corrode and blow up though…

Thanks, I can live with a couple of minor issues

Al.

 

[richardbd]

Thanks, I can live with a couple of minor issues

Al.

 

[longdog]

I'm thinking of the same thing but a GSA rather than a GS, It's purely a heart over head thing but then I ride my S10 and wonder why would I bother, most of my riding is observing on BikeSafe, ERS and ROSPA the S1O is ideal for that but I'm still drawn to the GSA.



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Hi yo-yo, that is pretty much how I feel about my S10, each time I ride it, I wonder why I am thinking of changing. I still fancy an R1200GS or GSA to be honest. We’ll see!

 

[stever1]

Possibly it’s a bit early for the 1250 to be coming back off the pcp deals

 

[BigKev67]

I also have a 1250 GSA and a 250 CRF rally.
The 250 puts a smile on my face in a way that the 1250 cant. Believe me after 52 yrs riding I have ridden so many bikes and have tried so hard to explain this.
This i think is why small is more fun :
What matters is how you connect with a bike. The 1250 is indeed superb but you experience a fraction of what it is capable of. You move the throttle a tiny bit, any gear will work, in short you are not connected to it. With the 250 its got so little power that it demands more input from the rider, you are riding it. You actually twist a throttle! The lack of weight is a joy. I am considering selling both bikes to get a 250 rally on steroids - the Yamaha Tenere

 

[Rockred]

I have a 15 GS and have got it perfect for me, Ohlins, decat headers, AF-xied, up and back risers, upgraded pegs, when I’m out on it, it just feels as if we’re one unit. I still love the bike 6 years into owning it.

When age catches up with me, I will probably go down the lighter smaller cc bike route or scooter.

 

[MotoRevive]

Owning a modern BMW out of warranty is like having sex with a prostitute without a condom.

You can talk yourself into it being a good idea at the time. But it's probably going to cost you dear down the line.

 

[longdog]

Owning a modern BMW out of warranty is like having sex with a prostitute without a condom.

You can talk yourself into it being a good idea at the time. But it's probably going to cost you dear down the line.

Excellent analogy!