Laser or Remus end can?

[STU12]

Have to agree with Andres on the 'drone' with the Remus baffle out , its borderline acceptable on a long trip and I've gone one direction baffle out and returned home baffle in cos it irritated that much.

However must fit the rest of the system and wunderlich controller soon

Stu

 

[Thunder]

Many thanks for the information people, to a sad assed analytical like myself it's just what's needed.

Got a run out on the dealers demo with the Laser fitted, can't say I found the noise "droney" and I tried different riding conditions including a blast down the motorway just in case.

Looks like I will go with the Laser on this occasion, of course now I'm sorely tmpted to go with te front pipes as well!

 

[GSmonkey]

If you just do the end can, you don't get the melting indicators / numberplate / luggage. The noise from the Remus (baffle out) when you give it a handfull at low rpm is just great. Never noticed a drone at speed and I've done quite a few miles. I do ride with earplugs.....as I'm sure a sensible person like you would too.

 

[Dabba]

chip too?

I did remus, y-piece, chip, air intakes, K&N on my 1150, so long ago and can't really remember how much difference it made, but love the 'feel' of the noise and mid-range was definately up. I always understood that removing the baffle didn't make much (power) difference so I didn't bother, and I've never particularly liked noisy pipes (though I've had a few - T595, RSV Mille and I changed back to standard after a while) - remus with baffle in is the perfect compromise in my view.

Anybody done this then moved to a 1200? - did it feel so much more powerful with standard can?

Dave

 

[Dabba]

melting bits

read about this on other threads - I have to say I've done thousands of miles with hard luggage on and its never marked anything, even in hot temperatures, so I never fitted the odd-looking extender pipe.

 

[Thunder]

I'd like to check my thinking on the subject of replacement front pipes for the 1200 GS by running something past the collective.

Basically it seems to me that as all the manufacturers of front pipes use an end can from there range which is designed to fit on the stock system, then any set of front pipes should be able to accept any end can, or even the bikes original can.

Does this make sense?

 

[JDH]

Makes absolute sense to me, and this is endorsed by the fact that I am having an Akro can fitted to Remus downpipes, don't like the appearance of the full Akro system with the twin cans. Have been assured that all will fit okay. Fingers crossed.

John

 

[Thunder]

Makes absolute sense to me, and this is endorsed by the fact that I am having an Akro can fitted to Remus downpipes, don't like the appearance of the full Akro system with the twin cans. Have been assured that all will fit okay. Fingers crossed.

John

Are they using the Akra link pipe for the GS with a single Akra can then?

 

[davew]

I am thinking about fitting Laser front pipes and using a standard end can, does anyone know if the Laser pipes will fit when the bike has Hepco and Becker engine bars. The reason I ask is that on some after market systems the lambar sensores obstruct the Hepco and Becker engine bars.
Alternatively is there a manufacturer of front pipes with the the pies running the length of the bike at the same centres as the standard system and with the lambar sensors in the same position.

 

[Thunder]

Is anyone aware of an issue with aftermarket pipes and the SW-Motech engine bars?

Curiously enough I was considering the Remus front pipes instead of the Laser ones as I can source them significantly cheaper, they don't use spring joints or a balancing pipe between the down pipes.

Before I place an order I will wait for the words of wisdom of those with much more experience!

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

Basically it seems to me that as all the manufacturers of front pipes use an end can from there range which is designed to fit on the stock system, then any set of front pipes should be able to accept any end can, or even the bikes original can.

Does this make sense?

The Bos system uses fatter front pipes than than the others (which is one reason why it gives such a good power increase) so I'm not sure that other cans would fit directly to the Y piece, I guess you'd have to fabricate an adaptor.

For the same reason I'm guessing a Bos can won't fit a standard or Remus Y piece without an adaptor

Andres

 

[Thunder]

Andres

On the BOS UK website they list either the can, the front pipes or a full system.

The front pipes are listed as a cat replacement and as they are designed for use with the standard can it seems logical that they can be used with any can.

Of course I could be totally wrong on this one

Do you have engine protectors fitted with the BOS?

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

Andres

On the BOS UK website they list either the can, the front pipes or a full system.

The front pipes are listed as a cat replacement and as they are designed for use with the standard can it seems logical that they can be used with any can.

Of course I could be totally wrong on this one

Do you have engine protectors fitted with the BOS?

No, I suspect you are prob. correct. The headers are defo. a fatter diameter but the single pipe that goes into the silencer may well be the same diameter as stock - hang on a mo. I'll just go and measure - Mmmmmmm..... interesting!

Stock header OD 45mm
Bos header OD 51mm

Stock mid pipe to silencer OD 54mm
Bos mid pipe to silencer OD 59mm

Maybe Bos supply an adaptor if you don't buy a full system I guess a phone call to Fowlers (the importer) will solve that one once and for all if you fancied a Bos Y piece

Don't have crash bars but fancy a set of Cavemans (advertises on this site) as they are cheap and look like they'll fit.

Andres

 

[Thunder]

I suppose the reason I am asking this question is that the flexability should be there to run the stock can or any aftermarket can on a any set of headers.

I'm aware at the same time that using one manufacturers "full" system could provide the optimunm performance as they are designed for each other, but in reality what difference would a "mismatched" can make?

This whole thing starte yesterday when I called up with the dealer and a guy rode off on his gs which had a full syatem and the noise had the hairs on the back of my neck standing on end. My immidiate thought was brilliant for blasting arround at the weekedn, but the other half might have a problem sitting on the back right above the exhaust.

So if I can fit the stock can when necessary...........

 

[Thunder]

I am thinking about fitting Laser front pipes and using a standard end can, does anyone know if the Laser pipes will fit when the bike has Hepco and Becker engine bars. The reason I ask is that on some after market systems the lambar sensores obstruct the Hepco and Becker engine bars.
Alternatively is there a manufacturer of front pipes with the the pies running the length of the bike at the same centres as the standard system and with the lambar sensors in the same position.

Davew.

It seems the Remus front pipes do not cause a fitment problem with Hepco and Becker bars, during my research (well I've nothing else to do until I collect the bike this week ) I found this on the Nippy Normans website:

This stainless steel downpipe/collector replaces the existing set-up and therefore the catalytic converter.Once fitted more power is released with no need to adjust the bike in any way. A dyno graph is available on our DOWNLOADS page. Fitment of the downpipes/collector is the best way to release power from your 1200GS and will make more difference than replacing the silencer.
Will fit with either Hepco and Becker engine bars or BMW engine bars.

 

[davew]

Thanks for the effort you have put in, I will now look for Laser pipes at a reasonable price.

 

[Thunder]

What's the best price you have had so far on Laser front pipes?

I've gone with the Remus as they were well priced compared to Laser (I'm using a Laser can though), do not use spring joints at the connection to the cylinder head and have no balancer pipe.

 

[Brian ROSEN]

What for?

I am reluctant to be a spoil sport BUT what are we looking for here? More or maybe less power and probably more noise. The first thing all our young tearaways here do with their new moped or 50cc racer is take off or change the silencer. Come to any French town or village, sit outside in the sunshine on a summer's evening and listen....you won't hear the birds singing! I don't want to join this gang.

 

[GSmonkey]

I don't want to join this gang.

Good, we don't want you

 

[Kevmulcock]

I don't want to join this gang.

BYE BYE :flush