Last MOT for my ST coming up.
Then 40 years old next year, so no MOT or RFL.......
and
Then 40 years old next year, so no MOT or RFL.......
and
Last MOT
- Thread starter dr nosh
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It's a nice feeling but don't get your hopes up. It's after the April after the bike is 40 years old.
Mine's a Jan '81. Could get historic status until April 2022. I could be mistaken but check it out.
Mine's a Jan '81. Could get historic status until April 2022. I could be mistaken but check it out.
Tufty is correct I'm afraid dr.
Although missed out the word 'not'
Should read = "Mine's a Jan '81. Could not get historic status until April 2022"
Although missed out the word 'not'
Should read = "Mine's a Jan '81. Could not get historic status until April 2022"
I'm off to check dates in the log book.
Mot exemption is 40 years from build date or registration. I had hassle with my XR500 as the build date was entered 10 years out at point of registration.
I think that tax on a B reg will be '85 at earliest.
I think that tax on a B reg will be '85 at earliest.
You're not mistaken
And the post office and DVLA were a right pain to deal with.
You must take the original V5 to the post office for them to forward to the DVLA.
After waiting a while I discovered the DVLA had not received my log book and copies are not allowed.
Had to apply for a replacement log book at a cost of £25.
Did as instructed although I did complain, a lot, as I'd followed the rules to the letter.
And then sometime after that a V5 with the word "historic" printed on it appeared on the door mat with my returned £25 cheque.
Took a few months all in all.
You must take the original V5 to the post office for them to forward to the DVLA.
After waiting a while I discovered the DVLA had not received my log book and copies are not allowed.
Had to apply for a replacement log book at a cost of £25.
Did as instructed although I did complain, a lot, as I'd followed the rules to the letter.
And then sometime after that a V5 with the word "historic" printed on it appeared on the door mat with my returned £25 cheque.
Took a few months all in all.
I taxed my 40 yr +90s as normal for six months and within four weeks my tax payment had been refunded and the new historical V5 issued to me as they pick it up as a mistake. I think this is in preference to taking it to a post office as most post offices can’t process it, and you usually have to go to a main post office in my area.
I’m sure on here, there is a blog somewhere that gave me the information to do that in the first place
Sent from my backyard
I’m sure on here, there is a blog somewhere that gave me the information to do that in the first place
Sent from my backyard
In my personal view, the 40 year ruling should be amended to make MOTs compulsory.
There are so many classic vehicles popping out of sheds and barns, being sold as going concerns, 'no MOT needed'. If the driver or rider of one of these vehicles is involved in an accident, the question of roadworthiness 'IS' going to be asked. Not just by the police, but the insurance companies. And as you all know, any excuse not to pay out. Then there are the legal implications relating to a substandard vehicle. Having a valid MOT on your classic is a very cheep insurance to cover yourself from a potentially serious situation one might find themselves in. I have two 50+ year old cars, one currently my daily driver. Both have Current MOTs. In my opinion, I simply wouldn't buy or sell without a valid MOT. This is no reflection on anyone or any vehicle not belonging to me btw. Just a different angle on the discussion.
Val.
There are so many classic vehicles popping out of sheds and barns, being sold as going concerns, 'no MOT needed'. If the driver or rider of one of these vehicles is involved in an accident, the question of roadworthiness 'IS' going to be asked. Not just by the police, but the insurance companies. And as you all know, any excuse not to pay out. Then there are the legal implications relating to a substandard vehicle. Having a valid MOT on your classic is a very cheep insurance to cover yourself from a potentially serious situation one might find themselves in. I have two 50+ year old cars, one currently my daily driver. Both have Current MOTs. In my opinion, I simply wouldn't buy or sell without a valid MOT. This is no reflection on anyone or any vehicle not belonging to me btw. Just a different angle on the discussion.
Val.
But an MOT is only valid on the day it is issued....
dogshome
Registered user
My bike has just turned 40. I plan to keep MOT going.
The local tester is a biker and is an engineer. I was suspecting head bearing wear, but they felt fine to me. He found that and said they have just started to go, not a fail. He did the same with a wheel bearing a couple years ago. He felt it. When I got it out, it was just showing light marks. A few months later it would have made itself known to me too.
So I will fix this at my leisure, knowing exactly what I'll find.
The local tester is a biker and is an engineer. I was suspecting head bearing wear, but they felt fine to me. He found that and said they have just started to go, not a fail. He did the same with a wheel bearing a couple years ago. He felt it. When I got it out, it was just showing light marks. A few months later it would have made itself known to me too.
So I will fix this at my leisure, knowing exactly what I'll find.
If your bike was 40 years old in January 2021, why was historic status not valid from April 2021 ?
Given that the ST was a sales flop at the time, it’s likely that the registration date was many months after the date of manufacture.
Would a print out of the build sheet from a BMW VIN site be sufficient for the droids at DVLA ?
"To quote from GOV.UK -
Vehicles exempt from vehicle tax
If your vehicle was built before 1 January 1983, you can stop paying vehicle tax from 1 April 2023."In the example above the vehicle must be manufactured in 1982 or earlier.
Therefore you have to wait 40 years plus 1 ie 41 years before you can apply.
GS boxerboy
Registered user
My 1980 RS has been MOT-less for the past 3 years, but I think there is a value in having a periodic test just for reassurance that my own asses of roadworthiness is backed up, we all miss things especially with 40 years of familiarity. Does anyone know what the situation is with a voluntary MOT, if it fails ?
With a classic car that I own I ask for it to have an MOT standard ‘health check’ documented on an invoice. I assume if a vehicle is subject to a MOT procedure and it fails, wether it’s required to have one or not, then it’s deemed unroadworthy.
This is very true. My ST was apparently built in June 1983 by the frame/engine numbers, but wasn’t registered until December 1984.
they were not popular when new, so many sat around in dealers unloved and unwanted……such a shame.
I think I should try to get an official letter from BMW stating date it was built, so that I can get it registered as historic earlier.
not for the lack of mot, but so I no longer need to pay road tax.
anyone know how I can get an official build date from BMW that the dvla might accept as the age of the bike?
Ah, understood - I was missing that detail !
Contact this guy (try a phone call first, apologise for no German (unless you speak it) and then go in English, he is fluent):
Andreas Harz
BMW Group
Andreas Harz
BMW Group Classic
Historisches Dokumentationszentrum
Postadresse / Postal adress:
BMW Group
AK-52
80788 München
Besucheradresse / Visitor’s adress:
Moosacher Straße 66
80809 München
Tel: +49-89-382-68281
Fax: +49-89-382-24765
[email protected]
http://www.bmwgroup.com
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