LC Service intervals a disgrace

[MKP]

Service intervals/costs

I agree with oldnfat, but BMW services are not the most expensive, I had (note I said had) a Ducati MTS 1200. The service intervals are every 7,500 miles, every 150000 mile is the desmo and belt service. My 150000 desmo service cost.......... wait for it...........£950 yes nine hundred and fifty english pounds. After I was revived with copious amounts of smelling salts, I sold the bloody thing.

Anyway new 1200wc on the way.

 

[roundincircles]

I agree with oldnfat, but BMW services are not the most expensive, I had (note I said had) a Ducati MTS 1200. The service intervals are every 7,500 miles, every 150000 mile is the desmo and belt service. My 150000 desmo service cost.......... wait for it...........£950 yes nine hundred and fifty english pounds. After I was revived with copious amounts of smelling salts, I sold the bloody thing.

Anyway new 1200wc on the way.

I sold my MTS at 12000 miles with no idea how much the 15,000 mile service would cost. Ignorance is bliss.

£950 seems very fat! The belts are very accessible but if they charge £120 per hour labour then it mounts up. The throttle bodies failed on my MTS. The replacement part cost £1500 and the bike has to be almost disassembled to fit them......Ducati paid......

 

[bod]

I had a Berlingo van with 6k service intervals, and when I chopped it in for a new one with exactly the same engine, the intervals had increased to 10k.
When I quizzed Citroen about it, they claimed it was the improved oil they now use - I accused them of abusing what the punters would put up with & 6k services they no longer would.

I also recall being charged £180 for an oil change on the same van .... it was in the workshop 20 minutes!

 

[GSTourer]

I agree with oldnfat, but BMW services are not the most expensive, I had (note I said had) a Ducati MTS 1200. The service intervals are every 7,500 miles, every 150000 mile is the desmo and belt service. My 150000 desmo service cost.......... wait for it...........£950 yes nine hundred and fifty english pounds. After I was revived with copious amounts of smelling salts, I sold the bloody thing.

Anyway new 1200wc on the way.

I don't think that £950 after one hundred and fifty thousand miles is that bad to be honest.

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

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I also recall being charged £180 for an oil change on the same van .... it was in the workshop 20 minutes!

I wonder how much of that was for oil as I know the VW 'extended mileage' oils are a horrendous price.

Andres

 

[duckspeed]

Is the water cooled motor to retain adjustable valve clearances, if so that might be reason for a short service interval

 

[GSTourer]

I bought an Audi A1 in 2010 and got a deal with servicing £250 for 5 years worth of services.........Shame bike manufacturers don't do something similar!

 

[Monsieur]

I bought an Audi A1 in 2010 and got a deal with servicing £250 for 5 years worth of services.........Shame bike manufacturers don't do something similar!

I use the audi dealers for my A4 - fixed price servicing and the most I've ever paid is £199 for a full service. Service intervals are around 12000 miles too.

Surely with most bikes an oil change every few thousand miles would suffice?

 

[Shep]

Continued short service intervals may be for safety reasons rather than oil quality, bikes lead a harder life than most cars, bmw's in particular seem to be popular with riders who wish little mechanical input to the ownership experience, but are still commited putting the miles on.

It would be nice if BMW, dumbed a bike down for use as a high milage, low service cost option. Perhaps a variation of the 800gs.

 

[Sleepy]

Do the fecking servicing yourselves....

Problem solved...

This advice brought to you free of charge....

 

[roundincircles]

You can always sell the bike before it needs a service, you would keep a Triumph or KTM longer.

The technicians are paid £30/40k per year. We pay £800 to £900 per 8 hour shift, say £4000 per week for 40 weeks per year, so £160,000 per year per technician.

Deduct overheads, dealer staff bonus and shareholder dividend and they are only just scraping a living.

Come on guys, it's tough in BikeLand.

 

[Fanum]

Also, the first service is bo....ks, 600 miles after PDI (CHARGED AND PAID FOR).

There is no first service on the cars I have recently purchased.

OK , it's a safety issue.......bo....ks again. Why are you engineering an unsafe bike? It basically it's there to reduce warranty charges imop.

They put thin oils in a new GS, to let it bed in nicely.

You'd also be a bit of a muppet if you bought a bike and ended up paying for the 600 mile service......just negotiate it into the purchase, the second before you sign on the dotted line

 

[Mr K]

You can always sell the bike before it needs a service, you would keep a Triumph or KTM longer.

The technicians are paid £30/40k per year. We pay £800 to £900 per 8 hour shift, say £4000 per week for 40 weeks per year, so £160,000 per year per technician.

Deduct overheads, dealer staff bonus and shareholder dividend and they are only just scraping a living.

Come on guys, it's tough in BikeLand.

Where?

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

Where?

Knowing a couple, I very much doubt it

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

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Deduct overheads, dealer staff bonus, me haggling for a discount and shareholder dividend and they are only just scraping a living.

Come on guys, it's tough in BikeLand.

Fixed it for you

Andres

 

[Greg Masters]

However, what I simply cannot fathom is that with all the development and the finer tolerances allowed by water cooling, service intervals remain at 6K.

Oil contamination from wet clutch.

 

[Fanum]

Katoomer 1190 Adv service intervals 10K miles

 

[GSTourer]

I use the audi dealers for my A4 - fixed price servicing and the most I've ever paid is £199 for a full service. Service intervals are around 12000 miles too.

Surely with most bikes an oil change every few thousand miles would suffice?

Yep totally agree.

 

[GSTourer]

Do BMW cars still have the servicing decided by how hard you drive it?.......If so why can't the bikes be the same?

 

[The Grey One]

I bought an Audi A1 in 2010 and got a deal with servicing £250 for 5 years worth of services.........Shame bike manufacturers don't do something similar!

Just another form of "discount" You could try to negotiate something similar with your bike dealer.

Certainly in almost every car dealership the sales and service sides are run as separate businesses. The sales department (or the manufacturer) will be subsidising the 5 years worth of services (and you will probably get the bare minimum done) Car service intervals have been extended mainly due to customer pressure-that's fleet buyers not private ones. The advance in oil technology has helped too but many manufactures have made there cars appear cheaper to service by removing items from the service schedules. When I ran a garage we stopped following the manufactures suggestion at the same time they removed checking the brakes as a service item.

I don't know if this applies to bikes too, I'd like to think not.

But overall I agree, bike servicing charges are sometimes hard to justify.

John