Martin GSA UK
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I see my mate's 'X' lights on his GS, easy enough. But I struggle with his rear indicators, particularly when he is braking. Same on another mate's late model 1250GS. They are a bad design.
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I don't know why people think blinding people with high beams, day or night, is a good idea. Cars or bikes coming towards you with a closing speed twice what you're doing and people choose to give them a blinding high beam as well? If people keep cutting you off that's more likely to do with the way you ride.
If your lights are set up correctly you shouldn't be blinding anyone. Same for bikes or cars.
Problems only arise if the angles are out - fairly frequent checking is a good idea as it's pretty easy to knock a spotlight on a bike by a few mm.
But absolutely nothing wrong with being seen - clearly.
Riding in the Uk is quite different to Europe in general I've not ridden in Canada - drivers here (and possibly riders) observation levels seem to be focused on speed cameras and Instagram only.
Problems only arise if the angles are out - fairly frequent checking is a good idea as it's pretty easy to knock a spotlight on a bike by a few mm.
But absolutely nothing wrong with being seen - clearly.
Riding in the Uk is quite different to Europe in general I've not ridden in Canada - drivers here (and possibly riders) observation levels seem to be focused on speed cameras and Instagram only.
At night absolutely. But normal high beams during daylight certainly don't "blind" anyone. I took a lot of time on a multi day ride adjusting and readjusting the headlight with my friends giving feedback when the ones riding in front of me said "you better switch to high beam because your light is dim compared to everyone else. And when my low beam was adjusted up to be visible during the day it was annoyingly high at night and the high beam was up in the trees. So everyone agreed to lower the aim and run high beam.
J biker
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...Specsavers maybe also need a mention...no quantity of bright lights can fix eye sight.
Don’t know what bike you ride but if you have to do that then there is something wrong. Set up properly then you shouldn’t be a need to use high beam during the day. Day time running lights or low beam will be fine. I’d lay a £ to a p that you are dazzling every car driver you get behind or approach at a junction, I bet they just love you.
Or it could be just like my car, it’s impossible to get a decent throw from the dipped beam without high ending up in the tree branches.
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If everyone else's lights are normal and mine appear dim, mine need corrected. I could angle the light up and run low but as I said then the high beam is way too high. I've never had this on any vehicle or motorcycle, is my 1300 the only one like this?
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If you're happy with them, who cares what others think. Mine are adjusted for my convenience and how I want my riding illuminated.
Sorry to redirect people, but hasn’t this somewhat stayed from the original question I asked!
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Happens on loads of threads.
Ive been on the forum for some time & of late Ive noted 2 things; 1. Increase in snidey comments, not v positive & degrading an advert content 2. People ‘choosing’ to use a topic to focus on their own thoughts etc vs align with the thread intent.
I must becoming a grumpy old fck!
Any way back on topic, hopefully - has anyone wired any of the lighting modules themselves & other than removing the trim &mounting the bracket is that the sum of the challenges encountered?
Totally agree with your opening comments 
Reference your questions I sat for most of a day watching James at Shiny Side Up dismantle the 1300 in less than 15 minutes, once done fitting and routing becomes a whole lot easier. However if you happen to want Motocan or similar and also an Innovv camera system it becomes a lot harder because there is so little room on the GS model, it takes awhile to carefully route everything and tidy up, it’s not easy but doable if you have some patience and a brain, watch some of James daily FB posts you will see what I mean. Good Luck.
Reference your questions I sat for most of a day watching James at Shiny Side Up dismantle the 1300 in less than 15 minutes, once done fitting and routing becomes a whole lot easier. However if you happen to want Motocan or similar and also an Innovv camera system it becomes a lot harder because there is so little room on the GS model, it takes awhile to carefully route everything and tidy up, it’s not easy but doable if you have some patience and a brain, watch some of James daily FB posts you will see what I mean. Good Luck.
I installed the LoneRider units myself with the Motocan unit installed under the rear seat.
Watched the YouTube install vids a few times and just went slowly / carefully through the process.
If I can do it I assume it can't be too hard. You just need to be patient as KLB says.
Two points worth mentioning
- when I installed mine you had to program via a laptop as it didn't work through a mobile device / app. I believe this has changed on newer models but I'm not sure.
This wasn't a problem in itself and the set-up was straightforward - other than when I encountered an issue on a tour I needed a laptop to do firmware update and solve the issue.
- when setting up the direction for the beams for the LoneRider units you need to do it at night ideally against a flat wall approx 30m away.
You really need a friend to sit on the bike while you do this so the bike is level and has some weight on it. (I assume other brands are set-up the same way).
I did mine on my own the first time - but it was a right faff, for getting on then off then adjusting etc etc. Much easier and no trouble with a mate on hand.
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