most border people are alright and will tell you where you can get a visa...
get amongst it, who knows what can happen tomorrow....
iran the indemnity is 400% value of the bike work that out 40 big ones, you can get your bank to underwrite it if your lucky, the option is an insurance company to underwrite it but it all costs, turkey iran pakistan is the most straightforward route but their is security issues coming through pakistan to date your getting escorts, the other problem is you cant get through burma, china you have to have a guide you could buy a cheap bike its not so painfull fronting the carnet yourselve,once your into india on to nepal then fly your bike from kahtmandu to bangkok
then happy days your there, but if your determined it can be done good luck anyway mate.
carlyour abit serious think about it I did not say buy at border did I....
He gets to the border, they'll say "yup you need visa!" matey says "where can I get one?! they say "go to Berlin (or some such place that issues'em), get a visa!" then matey turns round gets a visa and carries on.
Not quite as simple that visas can take time an be a right hassle much better to organise prior to leaving , what srace is saying go of half cocked your doomed to fail, hes given a bit of sound advice if hes wise he will listen to ityour abit serious think about it I did not say buy at border did I....
He gets to the border, they'll say "yup you need visa!" matey says "where can I get one?! they say "go to Berlin (or some such place that issues'em), get a visa!" then matey turns round gets a visa and carries on.
Simple....
How hard is that....
also that makes a much intersting blog rather than having it all sorted before hand...
sort it as you go along makes total sense "Jobs a carrott!" get amongst it.....
Long way from the Russian border back to Berlin...
Not quite as simple that visas can take time an be a right hassle much better to organise prior to leaving , what srace is saying go of half cocked your doomed to fail, hes given a bit of sound advice if hes wise he will listen to it
Ahemm... Stiffling a chuckle I'll try and answer as constructively as i can...
If you want to avoid Visas I'm afraid you are in for a bit of a tough time...
- Heading East through Europe you come to a very big country called Russia - Visa needed.
- So let's go another way. Through to Turkey. So far so good... Then we come to Iran. Blast. Visa needed.
- Third time lucky eh ? Let's avoid Iran and chance our luck through Georgia. So far so good. Then where ? Azerbaijan ? Bugger. Visa needed.
And unfortunately for every country after each of those first countries requiring a visa there are a raft of other ones !!
After Russia you will find Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Mongolia all need visas... You could stay in Russia all the way to Vladivostok and take the ferry from Zarubinho to South Korea perhaps to limit the number of visas needed ?
So let's explore the Middle east route. After Azerbaijan you will find Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan again - oh and Afghanistan or China !!
The other option could be to go down through Africa and ship the bike and yourself to India or direct to Asia. But then you'd be into Visas and carnets...
So perhaps the Russia route looks favourite... But as for getting there in a month !! Who do you think you are ? Nick Sanders ?
Unless you are Nick Sanders it will probably take you a week to 10 days to get to Moscow or Volgograd... And across Russia, even though the trans Siberian Highway isn't as bad as it once was, it will take you a couple of weeks minimum to get to Irkutsk...
Then you have to deal with the stretch to Khabarovsk from Ulan Ude. and on to Vladivostok...
All of which are tough, grueling roads.
have a look at Timolgra's heavy metal around Mongolia thread to see what the thrash to Irkutsk looks like...
have a look at scottsvisas.co.uk to find out about visas...
And you will have to be canny and crafty to avoid a carnet... But it can be done...
All in all I'd get a map out and see where you think you want to go and by which route... And then understand it is going to be quite a rigorous exercise just planning it...
have a look at Horizons Unlimited and then you might grasp the enormity...
The planning is fun. The paper chase is a pain - but unavoidable... But as to doing it in a month i think you need to think again sadly...
Good luck...
Can I laugh now yet ?
www.14degrees.org
he got his visa's as he went along, proper nice bloke popped in for a cup of tea...
our visa's took a just over a 12 days Russian, Mong, Kaz all multi entry, they offered the same service to include all the other stans... what's so hard about that?
All I said is when he gets to the border they'll point out where he can get a visa if he chooses to do so or not is his choice.
you do not have to have it all worked out before hand... as your suggesting...
I won't go public on an open forum on the dvd !! It arrived though...
arrival is the contract completed, content is a subjective area and can't be that easily defined....
I've worked out if a copy sells for £12 I make £6 after all the postage, cost of duplication, cases, envelope etc. (not including cost of original production)
Seems to be a lot of advise from folk who've not actually done it
Some of the countries mentioned simply cannot be entered without proir planning for LOI's and visas etc.
It is possible to get a Mongolian one at the border and the same goes for a couple of others, some require an LOI which you cannot get yourself.
Don't expect any sympathy from officials because you've thought 'feck it, I'm a rufty tufty adventurer' you'll be sent away with your tail between your legs.
Russian visas can only be obtained from your country of residence, if you need duel entry and it's over a month, then you'll need a business visa....oh what fun
We haven't even mentioned, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan
Break down in some countries and your visa runs out while your waiting for spares.....you be put on a plane back home.
Unfortunately this is the case, you do need to do a lot of planning but don't let it detract from the fact you're off on an adventure....it's all part of it, as you're about to find out
