Metal Boxes???

Colts

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Hi, looking into upgrading my plastic BMW panniers to stronger Metal ones for my 1150GS - Any advice?
Most people seem to rave about the Toratech units but they seem pretty steep - Any comments on the metal mule or cheaper Aplco boxes advertised in MCN and MSL?


Thanks Colts
 
Why do you want metal ones?

I know you say they're "stronger" but if you're only going to use them to deliver pizzas / do on road trips then the 1150 GSA ones are a good option IMO, especially as you can key them to the ignition key. But if you need them for a RTW trip .....
 
Do a search there's loads of good info on here about boxs. Me I love my trax
 
Hi Colts and welcome :thumb2

there's a huge amount of discussion about this and people's opinions and experience vary enormously.

Thankfully there's a great thread on the subject here which should give you some ideas, but there's no substitute for actually having a look at the different types.

I unofficially know that a well know supplier of panniers (and no - it's not Metal Mule :dabone ) are bringing out a new design for 09 so you might want to wait as there may be some good second hand sets up for sale as people upgrade.

Personally I am a big fan of the Metal Mules despite people's comments about price - I use mine every single day and the money has been well spent for my use. That said, if it's just for a two week holiday you might find the cost isn't worth it. Horses for courses.

Hope that helps :thumb2
 
Another forum ...

... I subscribe to (MT Riders) has a recent thread where a user has adapted 30mm Cannon ammo boxes as panniers. They looked good on the MT, are strong and cheap ... Might not be bespoke enough for the discerning GS rider though :ymca
 
Search 'Stahlkoffer' with the search function. Look to be very good, nice guy to deal with, fairly priced and hopefully they'll be all i hoped for - should have mine soon.

:)
 
Cheers all - I will follow the links and get some more info

I use the bike regularly and I require something big enough/secure to carry my work stuff inc a laptop as well as a weekend camping trips and a tour each summer. I prefer not to use a Rucksac and think that top boxes ruin the lines of the Bike(sad I know!). The standard Bmw ones on my 650 GS were perfect for this however the black Touring ones fitted to my 1150GS dont have the same flexibility.

I have used ammo boxes on previous trail bikes - but just need something a bit bigger now

Turraloon let me know how you get on with yours when they arrive

Thanks
Colts
 
yea look about... if you want the hand made heavy duty built like a brick shithouse you really have Verns and Civils to choose from... the big disadvantage of both of these are that they are not Quick Release but the big advantage is they are very strong if you drop the bike.

Some of the other guys who make Panniers are more box like in their construction and they can look a bit unsightly on the bike but they are cheaper and do serve a purpose... most of the pannier makers that are in the vendors section on here can make you the pannier to your size requirements some of the guys who make the more box shaped pannier will not charge you any extra for a different than standard size.

if you want QR panniers Hepco and Becker, Metal Mules and TT seem to be the ones to choose from...Hepco and Becker seems to have the best prices, Metal Mules while liked by some IMO are way way over priced.
some of the other Low volume bespoke pannier makers like ARDcase can be fitted to the likes of TT and Hepco and Becker frames but you lose space on the exhaust side due to the frame stand off... a way around this is to fit a stubby exhaust and alter the frames but this all adds up in costs too.

i forgot about Micatech... possibly the best engineered of all the panniers and are QR but the down side is they don't have quite the "look" for a GS... also Al Jesses the old type design you could break into without tools apparently which doesn't make them seem very good... if you ever see a set on a RTW traveller they all seem to have extra locks fitted.

I have a set of Civils and while i love the look of them if i had to make a choice to buy again now i'd go for Hepco and becker because of price and function of Quick Release which i found to be quite important... when the gate to your back garden is narrower than your panniers :) also being QR lets you use them as seats or table when camping.
Another thing is the price of the euro and dollar when buying something from abroad so homemade panniers could be the way to go... someone told me Civil had put his prices up by nearly £200.

Anyway you pays your money and you takes your pick... good luck

What i would think would be great is a thread about Pannier Prices

List every pannier manufacturer and prices they have for a Standard set of their panniers plus frames delivered to an UK address
plus the prices of items you need to fit them like changing your indicators to shorter ones or exhaust extenders etc.
 
I decided to sell my h&b plastic ones and bought a per of Redcap's Ardcases.

Excellent value for money :)
 
+2 for ARD Cases. :thumb2

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unless your going to go round the world or loads of off roading, why pay out sh**loads?

a pair of alco boxes are ok... waterproof, durable.... i can buy 3 before its more expensive than touratech...
lasted for nearly a year of continous use.

made own mounts so quick release.

pays ur money, takes ur choice:blagblah
 
panniers

Give Vern a ring... apparently Wednesdays seem to be the day for calls(?). :augie

World beaters in the name methinks, and a few of the photos around don't do them justice. For quality you can't get better!
 
+ however many were upto now for Redcaps Ardcases :thumb

No shiny pics yet as my pannier racks still havent arrived from Germany :mad:

Happy to promote any Forum member whose quality is top draw and service are lightyears ahead some fo the Big Names
 
++ Verns, got mine a couple of months ago and have yet to remove them from the bike since Vern fitted them!! Couldn't do without them, and soooo well made!!
Seamus
 
... I subscribe to (MT Riders) has a recent thread where a user has adapted 30mm Cannon ammo boxes as panniers. They looked good on the MT, are strong and cheap ... Might not be bespoke enough for the discerning GS rider though :ymca

Ive been searching the Army Navy stores for Ammo Boxes of this size ,any Idea who would supply boxes such as these:thumb2
 
I've no idea ...

Ive been searching the Army Navy stores for Ammo Boxes of this size ,any Idea who would supply boxes such as these:thumb2

... but if you go to MTRiders and use their search function it'll take you to the relevant post, then you can ask the poster :thumb2 It's a free and friendly forum, I'm sure they wouldn't mind :cool:
 


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