Michelin Pilot Road 3

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Michelin Pilot Road 3 Tyres
I've been told today by tyre supplier that according to Michelin, front and rear sizes for the R1200GSA / GS will not be available until September at the earliest.
Can anyone confirm if any are available in the UK at the moment. I was hoping to get them fitted before I head off to the Pyrenees in early June.
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Mac
 

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I have been told by my supplier who was told by Michelin that they are not doing a 19" PR3...... ever. They never did the PR2 if I recall.
 
Pilot Road 3

The Pilot Road 3 brochure shows the GS sizes as 110/80 R 19 [59v] and 150/70 R 17 [69v] as a "trail" version with availability in June.
Cheers
Mac
 
The Pilot Road 3 brochure shows the GS sizes as 110/80 R 19 [59v] and 150/70 R 17 [69v] as a "trail" version with availability in June.
Cheers
Mac

I'm guessing then this is similar to how Conti do it with a "Road" and a "Trail" version of the Attack tyre with different compounds and tread patterns. Hope they do though as more choice is always a good thing.
 
PILOT ROADS 3

Official michelin web site dosnt show GS fittments in 19" but you can get what they are calliing a pilot trail road ,an annakee walled pilot road treaded tyre ,but without any new compounds in the tread ,just old tread on stiffer carcase ,hardley a complete new trail tyre ,still old hat technology but may suit the GS,its another option in road biased tyres :nenau
 
but you can get what they are calliing a pilot trail road ,an annakee walled pilot road treaded tyre ,but without any new compounds in the tread ,just old tread on stiffer carcase ,hardley a complete new trail tyre ,still old hat technology

Why bother when both Dunlop and Continental have perfectly good (and bang up to date) road based tyres :nenau

From what I can see in various threads those that have fitted Conti Road Attack 2's or Dunlop Roadsmarts absolutely love them.

Maybe the PR3's will add some more choice / competition, but I have always found Michelin's tend to be about £30-£40 a pair more that Dunlops / Bridgestones / Metzelers etc so I have never bought them, and as they no longer sink Billions into MotoGP they should be able to bring the prices down!
 
The only plus side with exspensive michelins is they do wear well and get good milage ,hows your new dunlops rasher on your second set yet?? what do you think there good for (milage wise) before they let go :thumb
 
I still have 4mm on the rear of the Conti Trail Attacks and a pair of Roadsmarts itching to be fitted. I'm not sure how long I can hold off fitting them. It's all about grip and handling for me, mileage is not much of a concern. I get about 5K on a rear whatever the tyre, there's usually more tread left on the dual sport tyres I have tried but by then the handling is crap anyway so I change them. Its' not that Trail Attacks or Battlewings are bad, they are'nt, but the Roadsmarts are so much better.
 
The only plus side with exspensive michelins is they do wear well and get good milage ,hows your new dunlops rasher on your second set yet?? what do you think there good for (milage wise) before they let go :thumb

Asking anyone one mileage is pointless, I am hoping for @4,000 miles from the rear, which is what I got on the ZZR1400.

Still tells you nothing, I only got around 1500 each from two BT-014's, yet 4k from Roadsmarts, so as for Dunlops wearing out quick "I Don't think so", I also got over 3,000 from a Qualifier RR on the ZZR - A Dunlop Track Day Tyre that outlasted a Bridgestone road tyre by over 100%, whilst providing far more grip. But I also know of other riders who managed to get through the same BT-014's in under 1,000 miles and some who could make them last 5,000 miles.

So I am guessing a Roadmsart will last anywhere from 2,000 miles up to 12,000 miles depending on who is operating or "swinging on" the throttle.

Independant tests showed that Roadsmarts both outgripped and outlasted Michelin PR2's, however Dunlop had 2-3 years to beat the PR2, Michelin have now had the same time to try and trounce the Roadsmart, so I would hope the PR3 is a better tyre, but if it is (and I bet it will be) £40-£50 more than the Roadsmart I will not pay the extra as I doubt it will last the 20% longer necessary to make up for the price differential.

Maybe the Road Attack 2's are better :nenau who really knows, tyres can be a very personal thing, some tyres suit some riders better than others, I like the Roadsmarts and unless something comes along that is universally regarded as better, or this set do melt away in 2k I will stick with them because they give me great feedback and lots of confidence and are a premium tyre renowned for both dry and wet weather grip.

I am sure others get the same from different brands, I think the point is if you really like a tyre then stick to it, if you don't then try something else - and if others are recommending something it is a better gamble than something with no recommendations.
 
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So I am guessing a Roadmsart will last anywhere from 2,000 miles up to 12,000 miles depending on who is operating or "swinging on" the throttle.

Independant tests showed that Roadsmarts both outgripped and outlasted Michelin PR2's, however Dunlop had 2-3 years to beat the PR2, Michelin have now had the same time to try and trounce the Roadsmart, so I would hope the PR3 is a better tyre, but if it is (and I bet it will be) £40-£50 more than the Roadsmart I will not pay the extra as I doubt it will last the 20% longer necessary to make up for the price differential.

... tyres can be a very personal thing, some tyres suit some riders better than others, I like the Roadsmarts and unless something comes along that is universally regarded as better, or this set do melt away in 2k I will stick with them because they give me great feedback and lots of confidence and are a premium tyre renowned for both dry and wet weather grip.

I am sure others get the same from different brands, I think the point is if you really like a tyre then stick to it, if you don't then try something else - and if others are recommending something it is a better gamble than something with no recommendations.

I'm with you all the way !
Cheers!
 
Asking anyone one mileage is pointless, I am hoping for @4,000 miles from the rear, which is what I got on the ZZR1400.

Still tells you nothing, I only got around 1500 each from two BT-014's, yet 4k from Roadsmarts, so as for Dunlops wearing out quick "I Don't think so", I also got over 3,000 from a Qualifier RR on the ZZR - A Dunlop Track Day Tyre that outlasted a Bridgestone road tyre by over 100%, whilst providing far more grip. But I also know of other riders who managed to get through the same BT-014's in under 1,000 miles and some who could make them last 5,000 miles.

So I am guessing a Roadmsart will last anywhere from 2,000 miles up to 12,000 miles depending on who is operating or "swinging on" the throttle.

Independant tests showed that Roadsmarts both outgripped and outlasted Michelin PR2's, however Dunlop had 2-3 years to beat the PR2, Michelin have now had the same time to try and trounce the Roadsmart, so I would hope the PR3 is a better tyre, but if it is (and I bet it will be) £40-£50 more than the Roadsmart I will not pay the extra as I doubt it will last the 20% longer necessary to make up for the price differential.

Maybe the Road Attack 2's are better :nenau who really knows, tyres can be a very personal thing, some tyres suit some riders better than others, I like the Roadsmarts and unless something comes along that is universally regarded as better, or this set do melt away in 2k I will stick with them because they give me great feedback and lots of confidence and are a premium tyre renowned for both dry and wet weather grip.

I am sure others get the same from different brands, I think the point is if you really like a tyre then stick to it, if you don't then try something else - and if others are recommending something it is a better gamble than something with no recommendations.

Just thought you may have got through a set by now and would of been intersted in an average milage from roadsmarts ,also because you have played with your suspension and i have not and run ESA,so never mind ill find out myself when i get em fitted :rolleyes: :pullface
 
Pilot Road 3

In the interim getting Roadsmarts fitted next week ... looking forward to trying them out.
Thanks for all the comments
Cheers
Mac
 
Just thought you may have got through a set by now

Not yet, but they are wearing fairly quickly, I am guessing 4k is gonna be about right, but I do tend to eat tyres quicker than the "average" rider, a combination of a lot of two-up and not being too shy with the throttle means most riders tend to get better mileages.

What I am fairly certain of is that the wear rate seems pretty similar to the Tourance EXP I had fitted before, although difficult to judge as over the winter SWMBO was not so keen on going out, whereas now the sun is out the bike has been doing more two-up miles.

4k is fine by me, it is enough for a good tour, and for me means a max expense of 2 rears in any one season.
 


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