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Well I have been considering a trip to Morocco on the bike, and am in the early planning stages. So if any one has any tips on where to go, what to do, what to see, where NOT to go.. etc. I would be greatful.

Also tips on travel/ferry routes that are used would be helpfull too.

Havent set a trip date yet, this is very much the early stages of planning..

So all help very greatfully appreciated.

Cheers

John
 
Ride down to Plymouth and do the Plymouth/Sanatander crossing, unless you want to ride down thru France. Goes overnight both ways, whereas the Portsmouth/Bilbao one takes 48hrs there & 24hrs back.

Decide if you want Spain to be part of the trip, ie blat thru it in a day or take 2-3 days.

Decide how much off-road/trails you want to do in Morocco. You can get all the way down to the Sahara at Merzouga on tarmac. Or you can have a real adventure - Chris Scotts book details some trails. Going on your own?

Consider going with somone rather than on your own. Put all you gear on the bike, get kitted up, put your bike on it's side, jog round the block (the bike on it's side will hasten the jog :D), and then try and pick it up. Then consider going with somone again................Two means you can split spares & tools.

Two also means, unless you're a seasoned traveller who never worries, you won't get paranoid or worry about anything and have someone to turn to and say ":censor::censor::censor::censor: me! Look at that!". They can also take photos of you :mmmm

Work out what you need clothes wise, and then lose half of it. Hotels do laundry so you can always get some done one evening.

Both times I've been down we stayed at the Parador in Ceuta the evening before entering Morocco, which means you go thru the border early and have all day to go down thru the Northern part of Morocco. There was a 2hr time difference last time. 8am Spainish/6am Morrocan. Gives you more time to get further if need be, or just enjoy scenery etc.

You could stay Spanish side and ferry across in the morning, but personally I think the Parador is worth it.

There will be people at the border trying to give you forms and saying you have the wrong ones/colour. They're after dosh. Just ride thru the Spanish part (obviously stopping for the guards :rolleyes: ) and into the "compound" part of the Moroccan one to negate this.

Get your border forms from the ferry company at Algeciras when you buy the ticket. Complete them before going thru the border and save a bit of hassle. You can go thru without a man helping you if you want, but it WILL take longer. Have 5 euros or something like that to give him. Choice is yours on that one.

If you can get insurance for Morocco before, great, if you can't buy it at the border. Takes 10 mins, is pratically worthless, but if you haven't got it and something happens, you're in the poo.

Consider cracking on down to Fez/Meknes. Either way do the first 100 miles sooner rather than later. For me, Morocco doesn't start until Fez really.

You can go down the Motorway they have - fantastic, no traffic on it :D, but tolls, although cheap to us. Always handy to know if you want to come back in a hurry for any reason. I did Marrakech-Ceuta in a day with another guy when we had to get a written off Dakar back thru the border into Spain. Note: if you're in the poo, there's always a little man at the border who will be able to "arrange" things for a "consideration"

There are Ibis hotels in Morocco if you fancy a bit of Western style. Failing that others will no doubt offer other recommendations. In Fez & Marrakech they're located by the railway stations, which makes finding easier as the stations are signposted.

Desert Inn outside Erfoud is worth a stay. They sometimes do a night out in the dunes miles from anywhere, dancing girls etc. Quite a laugh.

Add more days than you think to give you time to see sights and maybe have a rest day/sightseeing day if you want. Don't have a really tight or rigid itinery that means you have to be somehwere at a set time - apart from maybe ferrys.

When you come back thru the border, don't queue, ride right to the front and park your bike next to the window for getting into the "compund". Others may expand on this, or I may remember more later.

I've got the ferry after coming back thru the border and stayed in Spain, and crossed the border and stayed in the Parador again before getting the ferry back across to Spain the next day. For me the Parador was better as it gives you a chance to walk round Ceuta and have one last look across the border at the mountains and where you've been.

No doubt I'll think of more.................., but whatever you do, do it :thumb

Send me your e-mail address via PM and I'll send you some of Moroccan waypoints.

HTH

:beerjug:

Jon

ps. If you're using a GPS and see a sign marked "Fez" to the right, trust it and not the GPS........................... :rolleyes:
 
Its changing day by day, NEW roads, and tourist friendly.

Marroco for me started when we/ I crossed over the Anti Atlas Mountains if you are of there ( marroc ) 10 days is not enough. its 5 days to Marakesh and 5 days back.

So 17/ 21 days is best.

NORTH of the ATLAS people take, SOUTH of THE ATLAS people give.

The Tis and Tes Pass is your way to the SOUTH.

Head for AGADI and travel to TAFRAOUTE- IGHERM - this area, most head for ERFOUD.

OFF raod South of TAFRAOUTE, a must, travel light.

I adore the place and would return tommorw, or maybe Monday.

Buy carpets, drink mint tea, and eat a burber omlette.
 
Keep it coming.. and cheers..

Thanks Jon, Bakerman..

The rough plan at the moment would be around 10 days to 14 day trip, with at least two 1150GS'es.

I am keen to do as much research as possible before the trip.

Has anyone looked at the option of hiring a villa etc? And using it as a base rather than hotels..

Whats the camping options like??

Umm and whats the the title of that book??? :)

The description of the border issues is a little worrying.. having survived several african border crossings in the past.. ;) would be glad to hear how others found it.lol..

Cheers

John..
PS please keep the info coming.. much appreciated guys.
 
Heading out that way this Thursday, this is the rough itinerary. I have the option of missing the overnighter in Ceuta on the way back if required. This will just be a single bike ( 1200Gs) with pillion, so wont be doing any serious off road stuff.

29th 30th Sept- Ferry from Portsmouth to Bilboa, Spain.

1st Oct – Ride as far into Spain as possible, want to be within 150 Miles of Algecieras.

2nd Oct- Cross Straits of Gibraltar into Cueta & cross Border into Morocco aiming for Asilah on Atlantic Coast.

3rd - head down to Marrakesh
4th – Day off in Marrakesh

5th – Ouarzazarte

6th – Tinahir & Todra Gorge
7th – Dunes at Erg Chebbi ( Merzouga). Ride out into desert on Camel & stay overnight in Berber camp.

8th Somewhere between Erg Chebbi & Fes
9th Chefchaouen
10th Ceuta
11th Cross back to Spain, head for Seville

12th- Somewhere in Spain within 120 Miles of Bilboa

13th / 14th- Ferry Back to Portsmouth.

Baz
 
Tracklog Maroc

Some of the tracklogs from our trip.

as Bakerman said the loop south of Tafroute is well worth doing.
leave panniers and luggage at the hotel!!!

You may pass my pannier mid way along the track if you travel this route.
 

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Have been to Morocco a couple of times now.... In future I definately wouldn't bother with Marrakech..... it's just too commercialised and full of rip off merchants. Fez on the other hand is the 'real' Morocco.... the Medina is unbelievable, with about 10,000 little alleyways. Real friendly low-hassle people, brilliant food.... I can't recommend it enough. The roads and counryside in that region of Morocco are also fantastic.

Chefchaouen is also worth a night's stay... brilliant little place. It was such a staunch muslim outpost, that not much over 100 years ago, barely any westerners (christian dogs) had been there... certainly none had returned!
 
rocks said:
The description of the border issues is a little worrying.. having survived several african border crossings in the past.. ;) would be glad to hear how others found it.lol..

It's not that bad :D, but forewarned is forearmed to stop you potentially getting ripped off.
 
preperations..

Well my best friend is due to be purchasing his new mount.. an 1150GS this wednesday then the planning will really begin.. :)
So thats for the info so far and the forewarnings. Experience is always great, so thanks guys.

I will no doudt have a shed load more questions as things progress.

We are probably going to stick to dirt roads and leave the real offroading for the first trip. I am looking at a "shake down" trip to spain to start off with,, to check out bike loadings etc..

Any more tips most welcome..
 
I don't agree with Willstatt's comments about Marrakech--after eight visits it's still my favourite. Fez is considered to be the 'Arab' imperial capital of Morocco, whilst Marrakech is the 'Berber' imperial capital. Both are good, for different reasons.

Chefchaouen in the north of Morocco was the centre of the Jewish area with something like 250,000 Jews that decided not to stay in Spain to face the inquisition. Most of them left for Israel in the 1940s/50s.

Details of the Ceuta/Fnediq border crossing are at http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44332

Pics from our trip: http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44936

GPS waypoints: http://www.voyages4x4.com/roadbook_maroc.htm

Tim
 


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