Let's hope these lock makers don't rest on their laurels and at least try to stay ahead of the game. It is indeed an "arms race"
Motorcycle security when away from home
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Just my opinion. Insurance is a necessary evil only there to compensate the other guy if you have an accident thats your fault. Insurers, it seems to me, are not interested in you unless there is a third party to get their money back when something does eventually happen.and so does your insurer.
Have you ordered the new ‘Must have’ Oxford lock(s) and / or changed you mind about stepping foot (or even holidaying) in France?
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I have a Litelock X1 already. I don't think locks will help when they can just pick the bike up. Albeit 250kg+ of bike won't deter them.Have you ordered the new ‘Must have’ Oxford lock(s) and / or changed you mind about stepping foot (or even holidaying) in France?
I would reconsider France but would think very, very carefully about where I leave the bike
So lock two bikes together . The bigger S2 will aid this
I would want to be within sprinting distance if the tracker went off. Yes I would risk injury to chase them off
Fixed, for you.
That’s arguably good advice in any country. Just because say, Germany, doesn’t feature in many ‘Your bike WILL be stolen’ reports, that doesn’t mean that thefts do not occur. Likewise, assuming that - just because you are not in a city - the theft risk reduces to zero, is similarly erroneous. Don’t fall into the trap of ever fully believing: “It’s so quiet, nothing will happen here. I read they leave the keys in the ignition”. The fellows who tell you this, will not be around when you find your bike gone, trust me. Only your insurer will be there to assist and dig you out of the mess.
Rural France is a lot more likely to suffer less thefts than most parts of Britain imho, so whatever you use in the UK should be fine for France...I just can't see the issue here? Targeted thefts in urban areas frequently involve a van (probably nicked too) and three or four beefy guys so weight of bike is no prevention against theft. Chaining it to something solid is as decent a deterrent as you're likely to provide, along with other locks made to be a PITA to remove. I usually D lock front and back wheels as well as use a chain, and alarmed disc locks. If they nick one of my bikes secured this way, I've done as much as I could have done
Don’t go to cities, as your bike will (probably) be stolen. It’s difficult / expensive / impossible to insure (an expensive) motorcycle in London.
There is a direct correlation between the two, I guess.
There is a direct correlation between the two, I guess.
Why would one walk home? This might come as a surprise to you but there are airports and train stations on nearly every major town or city now. I certainly wouldn’t be walking home.
Oh, that’s a really good idea, I’ll not worry then.
Planes, trains and automobiles….. paid for, no doubt by an insurer. Thank God, they are very rarely judgemental when there is a bike sized gap, where a bike was stood.
Wow . That’s a huge fucking D lock !!!
That’s a surprise. I wouldn’t have thought that insurance companies would pay for the travel home.
If your vehicle is, for example, stolen or damaged, as mine was when I flew my Pan European, buckling the front wheel. Your insurer is obliged to put you back in the position you were in, the moment before the loss or damage occurred.
I no longer had use of my motorcycle on my holiday in France, as the front wheel was buckled. My comprehensive motor policy Insurer paid for the cost of hiring two hire cars, one for use in France for a week or so (whilst I continued my holiday) right back to Calais. The other for use when I stepped off the ferry in Dover, which I handed back to the hire company, when I got back to central London. The same insurer also paid for the recovery of the damaged motorcycle, from the south of France, back to Honda at Chiswick, the replacement of the front wheel and some scratches to the panniers. I didn’t ask for the panniers to be done, as they were scratched much earlier in the bike’s life. They were just replaced, along with the front wheel. I can only assume Honda Chiswick assumed they had been scratched in the transit from France.
This rather puts the lie to the notion of:
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