Multiway Plug repair....

[WindyChuffer]

A wire has come off the multi-way plug that connects the wiring loom of the bike to my instrument cluster.

Does anyone know of a specialist that can repair them? Looks like a real fiddly job.

BMW do a repair kit (replacement connector complete with tails) for soldering onto the loom but it is on back order and no delivery date.

I reckon will have to chop my connector off and somehow try and get a new wire in there, and then solder the lot back onto the bike.

This has all come about due to some c*nt stealing my instrument cluster in October, which is still order with BMW and no delivery date almost 4 months later. Anyway, I got hold of some used clocks and discovered the loose wire on the weekend....

 

[Wapping]

Try fellow Tosser...

In a rush... the fellow with the Dell boy Trotters van as his Avatar. Lives in Kent, somewhere like that. Stupidly I have forgotten his monicker.

 

[Fanum]

A wire has come off the multi-way plug that connects the wiring loom of the bike to my instrument cluster.

Does anyone know of a specialist that can repair them? Looks like a real fiddly job.

BMW do a repair kit (replacement connector complete with tails) for soldering onto the loom but it is on back order and no delivery date.

I reckon will have to chop my connector off and somehow try and get a new wire in there, and then solder the lot back onto the bike.

This has all come about due to some c*nt stealing my instrument cluster in October, which is still order with BMW and no delivery date almost 4 months later. Anyway, I got hold of some used clocks and discovered the loose wire on the weekend....

Take a piccy of the plug and socket...post here.

There's a very good chance that there will be a direct replacement available, or if you want to (depending on how many connections and the amperages of each wire) you could use a durite product like one of these:

2-8 gang, low current, IP7 (waterproof)

2-8 gang also, higher current (this is also the type that goes onto the 11XX TPS by the way)

And so on and so on.........

 

[NickD]

Try fellow Tosser...

In a rush... the fellow with the Dell boy Trotters van as his Avatar. Lives in Kent, somewhere like that. Stupidly I have forgotten his monicker.

Tunneruk (Chris)

 

[WindyChuffer]

I have sent tunneruk a PM. So thank for the pointer. Kicking myself for not thinking of that but hey, thats what Forums are for.

I will take a pic of the connector and post up here, but in the mean time, this is the only pic on the Web that I have found so far:

Also, pic 1 (the multiway, not the 3 way) on the fiche pix below seems to be the one, but will check tonight:

http://www.ascycles.com/Illustrated_catalog2/MicroList.aspx?id=52022&catID=&catname=&bindName=Repair%20cable%20main%20cable%20harness&bindCat=61_2485

 

[Wapping]

I can point you in the right direction for the pins (they are crimped, not soldered) and the sockets...

Bear with, as they say, a I have to find the thread.

The crimping tool is NOT cheap....

 

[Wapping]

Found it...

Deutsch connectors, are what you are looking for.

See this: http://www.k1600forum.com/forum/bmw...m60-accessory-outlets-clearwater-glendas.html

I ordered mine and the crimping tool from America, in a kit.

 

[littleredrooster]

Most competent auto-electricians will have the kit to remove and replace the connectors within a multiway plug.

 

[Fanum]

Most ARE crimped, but soldering is an option.......The pins that you put the core wires into are pretty small, so you have to be bang on with your crimping or the body of the pin bends IYSWIM......equally, you have to be pretty accurate with soldering or you won't be able to poke the pin back into its slot.

I've repaired or substituted dozens of these little buggers, and it does take some practice to get it right, then of course when you DO get one spot on, you see that you forgot to slide the little rubber bootee over the wire that slides down inside the plug to seal it completely from water/sand ingress

You DO NOT need the really expensive tools to either dismantle a plug/socket. or to re-build one, you can use a set of jeweller's screwdrivers to do either part, in conjunction with a pair of fine nosed needle pliers.

(EDIT.....the really expensive bits of aluminium that they send you, all poking out of a wheel type hub thing, are just variations of needles, prodders and flat blades......there's fuck all mystical about them, and anyone with an ounce of common sense could look in their tool kit or in the sewing kit and find stuff to do exactly the same function (if not better) than these 'kits')

Understanding how the little tangs work and how (in particular) they latch into the plastic body of the plug or socket is more important...once you've got the idea (do a dry assembly a few times without the wires crimped in) it gets much easier.


FWIW, rather than hunting down the precise OEM spec' plug and socket pair, I reckon it's far easier and more cost effective to substitute a pair from Durite or a similar manufacturer.....I have several on my own bike, including the fuel tank connector (can't remember the others I've done TBH)

It means that if you ever have a similar problem, you can get the exact same plug (they're pretty much industry standard) from any decent motor factors.......plus you can tailor the bits you use to better suit the needs (I have 2x two way units replacing the 4-gang standard fuel tank connection, one is orientated Male at the tank end, female at the bike end and the other one is reversed. so it's impossible to get them the wrong way around) so you can test different parts independently and without fully removing the tank........or I can use the fuel pump to actually pump fuel into a container

Just my humble opinion, but too may people get sucked into replacing like for like expensive unique OEM designs rather than using universal generic fittings which are up to (and in many cases, way better) the standard of the OEM kit.

 

[kevmean]

Fanums right you know ;-)

 

[Wapping]

Yup, you can spend hours fiddling about 'getting it right' as the BGT Tosser suggests, or you can buy the proper kit and crimping tool ( which will last a lifetime) and do it all in two minues flat.

 

[WindyChuffer]

Have managed to track down a used connector with about 5" of cable on it. It has been chopped off a reclaimed 1200GS wiring loom which was otherwise damaged. So after a bit of soldering and heat shrink I should be sorted !

All for a tenner plus postage. Those boys at Motorworks come in very handy.

A little job for the weekend.

What is weird is that amongst the connectors that BMW sell as spares on their fiches, the one for the instrument cluster (6way) is not listed. Odd.