My review of the 14 Ducati Multistrada vs 15 BMW R1200 GS

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My review of the 2014 Multistrada S comes from my relative inexperience of riding just 3 years and I am a middle aged rider in inner city Sydney, Australia. In that time I have owned a Tmax 500 Scoot (3 mths) a Kwaka Versys 650 (1 year) a 2013 BMW R1200GS and now a 2015 BMW R1200 GS. I ride to and from work (Enmore to North Ryde, lots of traffic and filtering) 40 klm each day and do the burbs and occasional long day runs on the weekend. I do not have regular access to the family 4WD and so the bike needs to do the shopping and run errands around town.

What is important to me is being able to flat foot the bike, a planted, sure footed feeling when underway and linear power delivery. It must feel nimble and easy to corner and ideally fit thru normal lane gaps for filtering. I also rate very highly capacity for luggage as I change my options frequently between 3 top boxes, 2 soft cases and hard panniers. I am also a massive fan of high tech electronics, all Traction Control, Electronic Suspension, etc. So, my baseline is a 13-15 R1200 GS and to be honest, it pretty much ticks all my boxes, of course there is room for improvement such as less weight, narrower bars and maybe a tad more power when you need it.

Considering all of this, the Multistrada failed for me as an improvement over what I presently have for my stated use. It felt smaller in the cockpit and overall wheelbase, the seat does not have as much room to slide around on, it felt heavier than the GS due to higher COG. I could not flat foot it (the newer 15 Multistrada is about 30 mm lower seat height than the 14) the power was delivered in a torque rush and whilst it was easy to control and a great surge of power it felt rough and somewhat agricultural in its delivery. The Skyhook suspension does a better job of soaking up the bumpy roads than the GS which also damps well but the whole chassis seems to ride over bumps gently following the road contours and undulations whereas the Multistrada keeps the chassis level. I really did not like the ergonomics of the switch gear and display, would need to get used to it, the GS is very easy to use in that regard.

I also rode a 2011 BMW R1200 GS today, this bike has zero electronics and had knobby tyres. I actually preferred the feel, balance & handling of this bike over the Multistrada although it would have been better with road tyres and it needs more power. It's suspension was shit over the bumpy roads but overall it felt more in line with what I am used to, a GS of course.

Another thing I noticed on the Multistrada was the heat coming from the engine, I definately noticed it whereas my 15 GS generates virtually no heat. From a quality perspective they are pretty much of a muchness although I would give the GS more points in overall quality as everything is well fitted and tight whereas the Multistrada's rear indicators were flopping around a lot, the main seat is a bastard to remove and refit although, as stated, the quality seems similar to the GS.

The gearbox on the Multistrada was smooth and easy to use but it was missing GSAP which I have become totally accustomed to on my GS, clutch less shifting up and down is just pure joy. I am also fairly sure that the OEM exhaust on the Multistrada is louder than the OEM GS pipe as my ears were ringing for some time after I got off the Multistrada. I actually like loud pipes anyway so this is a mute point. It did not seem to turn in any quicker than my 15 GS but as it was wet I did not get the opportunity to properly test this. Note that my 15 GS with Anakee III tyres turns in a lot quicker than my 13 GS fitted with Tourance Next tyres. The Multistrada would be quicker to turn in than my 13 GS.

After dropping the Multistrada back at Frasers I got to ride my GS back home and the supple ride, sure footed flat footing and strong, linear power delivery instantly felt like biking perfection. I have been Multistrada curious for years and am so glad that I got to take one for a decent run today, albeit it in mainly wet weather, but I think I will be keeping my GS a bit longer.
 
I also like the look of the Multistrada, but there are several reasons why I won't buy one.

Any reason why you didn't take the 2015 Multistrada out, as that would have been a better comparison, surely?
 
I have owned both bike and completed many touring miles.....about 15k miles on the MTS and 20k miles on a 13.GS.

I am a fanboy of both bikes. All I would say is that the Ducati 'L' twin took me some miles before I adjusted to it. It thrives on revs despite its huge low Rev torque and pulling power...... It then becomes ballistic in all gears but particularly in 3,4 and 5th.

Both great bikes but very different in character.


I hope my 15 MTS variable valve timing model turns up next month.
 
I also like the look of the Multistrada, but there are several reasons why I won't buy one.

Any reason why you didn't take the 2015 Multistrada out, as that would have been a better comparison, surely?


Simples. It is launched next month........in Europe.
 
I owned a 60 plate multistrada s touring. Good bike but the gs watercooled is a better allround package, especially when you consider luggage and wind protection. The ducati has some riddiculous quirks , adjusting the clock time needed the manual out (wheras the gs does it automatically from the nav). The heated grips were switched on via the starter button. Indicator cancel button changed engine modes.

Servicing is also very expensive on the ducati especially when it coincides with a belt change.

Good bike though with that italian soul/character (and in the flesh they do look lovely in that red paint) so wouldnt rule one out again, although on the new one i believe the seat height is reduced, which for me is a bad thing so might make it a bit of a non starter.
 
When somebody brings a bike out with the practicality of a GS and the looks, character and performance of a Multi then the perfect bike may well have been created :)

Ah, wait a minute......................somebody has and it's called a KTM 1190 Adventure :rob

Ok, ok, I'm going back into my little Orange room.........................
 
When somebody brings a bike out with the practicality of a GS and the looks, character and performance of a Multi then the perfect bike may well have been created :)

Ah, wait a minute......................somebody has and it's called a KTM 1190 Adventure :rob

Ok, ok, I'm going back into my little Orange room.........................

Is it as good ?

I'd like to hear & the reasons
 
.....a GS

Much as we take the piss, these Germans do seem to evolve the GS into the benchmark - which others seem to fail to deliver ......As a package

Dealers/Service costs/Functionality/Riding appeal/All round purpose/Accessories/Touring ease/Pillion comfort & ability/Handling etc

As a package - any age of GS is the best in the class for the last 20 years

A bench mark that is very hard to surpass
 
.....a GS

Much as we take the piss, these Germans do seem to evolve the GS into the benchmark - which others seem to fail to deliver ......As a package

Dealers/Service costs/Functionality/Riding appeal/All round purpose/Accessories/Touring ease/Pillion comfort & ability/Handling etc

As a package - any age of GS is the best in the class for the last 20 years

A bench mark that is very hard to surpass

Ah ok, well...........

I actually think they are very different bikes, just like a Multi is very different to a GS. The marketing guys may make sure they have similar names and the bike journos reinforce this image through group test / shoot out bollox but the really are quite different and thus not straight forward to compare, I'll try though............

Build quality - KTM beats the GS hands down. Nice componantry used, good paint and well put together. Standing up to winter and salt very well.

Comfort - One up I'd say, there's not a lot on it but the GS just beats it. No issue with the KTM just that the GS really is a very comfy bike. Two up the GS wins hands down and I'm currently pissing about with pillion peg positions and the like to improve things for Amanda.

Off road - I did a lot on the GS but have only done a couple of days off road, and easy at that, on the KTM so far but already I can say it is far easier to off road than the GS, far easier. Oh and set the mode to Off Road and the traction control allows you to drift and slide as if on rails which is quite a weird experience initially and then just very big fun (reckon it's only a matter of time before that one bites me on the arse though!).

Performance - I thought the WC GS was pretty quick and had moved the game on into fast road bike land - ALMOST - but at the loss of that lovely heavy flywheel effect. That would have been a price worth paying if it really was fast but it isn't. The KTM is ballistic, eminently rideable and much more easy to ride slow/filter in traffic with little or no clutch feathering needed. Open the throttle big time and it still scares my shitless (in a good way), it's ballistic. That is at the expense of the some low down grunt (but not on paper, it has more torque low down than the GS) it's just that the engine spins up so fast the feel is very different. Fuelling on the KTM is pretty much spot on through out the rev range and the gearbox is spot on light and positive.
When on full chat with my Wings silencer it also sound gorgeous, not too loud, just flipping gorgeous!

Handling - Very good indeed. More precise and involving that the GS but doesn't give that 'floaty' telelever effect which I do miss. Brakes are lovely, very soft initial bite which is great off road but give them a squeeze and you can feel exactly what's going on and boy do they stop you.

Luggage - I got the KTM 'bread bins' which I guess are similar to varios without the vario bit. They are fine, clip on and of easily and do their job. No issues so far. Varios though win hands down, I reckon they are tougher and the vario bit is such a useful and clever idea, I love them and miss having them.

Dealers - Lord knows and that must be down to your local dealer but mine, LeisureTrail, are just a normal old skooll dealer, no corporate crap, and have so far been great. Service costs seem similar to WBM but services are at 9000 miles (or yearly)

Electronics and stuff - never thought I would but I love all the silly modes and stuff and operation is VERY easy on the KTM. Simpler to use that the WC. (I've got the R without electronic suspension).

Accessories - Dunno really as I've fitted very little stuff as I've not needed to? KTM do some nice espresso cups though :)

What the KTM is giving me which the GS never got close to doing is a much more engaging ride. A much more characterful ride and well, just lots of smiles. At the moment that's what I want and I'm very, VERY happy with having made the move :)

Andres
 
.....a GS

Much as we take the piss, these Germans do seem to evolve the GS into the benchmark - which others seem to fail to deliver ......As a package

Dealers/Service costs/Functionality/Riding appeal/All round purpose/Accessories/Touring ease/Pillion comfort & ability/Handling etc

As a package - any age of GS is the best in the class for the last 20 years

A bench mark that is very hard to surpass

i think you are mostly right. Riding appeal? oh i don't think so, but being the best all rounder does not necessarily make it the best bike. it makes it the best bike for most people ;)
 
I guess most of us prefer blander 'all rounders'

We've a Guzzi dealer in town, that's just taken on the KTM road franchise - so I might take one out
 
I guess most of us prefer blander 'all rounders'

We've a Guzzi dealer in town, that's just taken on the KTM road franchise - so I might take one out

Well, in all my years of biking the GS was my first 'all rounder' bike. It was practical, sensible and did everything very well other than light up my mojo. I had it ten years though and that's the longest I've ever had a bike so it must have done something right.

I've been there, done that and wanted a bike with a bit of character and oomph again, KTM's release of the 1190 was perfect timing for me and my mojo is defo lit up again, big time :)

Sometimes you can't sum things up in literal, practical, sensible bundles and that defo applies to bikes. Save practical all rounders for washing machines and cars........

If you do have a ride give it a good run, for the day if you can as, as much as with peoples first experience with a boxer it takes a while to become accustomed to it.

That said, I can't for a minute imagine you liking it :D

Andres
 
.....a GS

Much as we take the piss, these Germans do seem to evolve the GS into the benchmark - which others seem to fail to deliver ......As a package

Dealers/Service costs/Functionality/Riding appeal/All round purpose/Accessories/Touring ease/Pillion comfort & ability/Handling etc

As a package - any age of GS is the best in the class for the last 20 years

A bench mark that is very hard to surpass

Has someone hacked into JB's account?:augie:P
 
I guess most of us prefer blander 'all rounders'


yes, i think so. i've had several.

in almost every measurable way, the GS is the better bike, but...it's nice to have a change now and again :)

never say never, but i doubt i'll ever buy another GS. nothing wrong with them, great bikes, but "other bikes are available" and they are worth a try. it's very easy to get locked into BMW world IME. maybe it's the dealers? my KTM dealer just seems to be another bland jap bike retailer with a KTM franchise. they've been ok, but CW's were better.
 
3 KTM dealers in the whole of Yorkshire according to their website, the one local to me is 'Craigs' Dewsbury which is a right royal pain to get to. Just the one dealer in Lancashire. KTM are gonna have to do better than that if they want me to switch from BMW.

I dont understand why 'Craigs' dont open one in Shipley where they have a Honda franchise, it would be just half a mile from both Alan Jefferies and Ducati Leeds, rather than being outcast in Dewsbury.
 
When somebody brings a bike out with the practicality of a GS and the looks,

Ah, wait a minute......................somebody has and it's called a KTM 1190 Adventure :rob
...

They missed the boat with not making it a shaft, if they had made either bikes with shafts i seriously think ktm would seriously be taking a lot of bm customers.
 


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