New 1200 v old single cam!

Just a few impressions of the new twin cam GS really, Im not an expert, I've only been riding 36 years.

My old 1200 was due a 24K service, needed new tyres, pads, fluid change was just out of warranty. I commute 110 miles a day so needed at minimum breakdown cover for punctures etc. The old girl had'nt missed a beat in all that time; she was a GSA with hyperpro springs, wire wheels and aluminium panniers that I detested cleaning.

As winter approaches I thought that it may be a good time for a deal:thumb. I didnt want the weight of a GSA or any more the previously mentioned cleaning hang ups, so, I tried a Tiger, a Yamaha Super wotsit and even considered a Honda Cross dresser, but didnt get on with the riding positions and 'feel' of those bikes.:(

As I live in Lincolnshire I wanted the benefits of softish suspension :bounce1and upright riding so thought I'd opt for a standard GS.

The up shot is that I now have a Blue:bow 2012 model nestling in my garage. I picked it up last saturday and had its 1st service at 740 miles yesterday.

The new engine is a revelation, it picks up its skirt and boogies way more spritely than the olden. It revs freely, cleenly and speedily throughout and reaches 130 (where legally allowed:D) Its turning 53 mpg on my commute about 4mpg better than the GSA ridden in the same manner but with the GS making slightly faster progress!

The bike feels just as planted as the GSA however it is much lighter round bends! I have ESA on it and having listened to the debate about a well set up suspension V ESA would offer the followinbg observation. My daily ride takes me through the countryside on B and minor A roads and up the A1. Sitting in sport mode around thw twsities keeps everything nice and together, on the A1 into comfort for the dull straight bits at the flick of a switch gives me a tourer and a kinda scrather in one package. ESA also comes into its own when swmbo jumps on the back, again a two second prod of a button gets everything setup easy peasy!

Luggage on the GS doesn't look quite so hardcore as the GSA however the ability to shrink and enlarge them, given the stuff I carry as part of my job, makes the GS Vario's a better option for me. The bonus being they are a piece of cake to clean!

What do I miss? the GSA screen for protection and the spotlights in the dark nights, thats all!

Ive had two 1150's single and twin spark that felt positively agricultural.This is my 6th 1200GS, three GSA's and 3 GS's with about 60K mileage on them. So worth it?? for me a resounding yes, a much better bike that puts an even bigger grin on my face!:D:D:D:D

Agreed - I have a standard 2010 model with the twin cam engine and a friend has the GSA with the new engine. We both agree that it is a significant improvement over the older 1200 engines. I prefer the standard GS over the Adventure though, it is just that bit more sprightly.
 
Whilst most correspondents sing the praises of the twin cam to the heavens, and a just a few find it not worth changing only when measured in the gain-versus-cash stakes.

Has anyone ever ridden a 1200 twin cam and actually found it worse than earlier models?
 
Whilst most correspondents sing the praises of the twin cam to the heavens, and a just a few find it not worth changing only when measured in the gain-versus-cash stakes.

Has anyone ever ridden a 1200 twin cam and actually found it worse than earlier models?

Cue Rasher!! He doesn't like anything BMW !!!
 
Whilst most correspondents sing the praises of the twin cam to the heavens, and a just a few find it not worth changing only when measured in the gain-versus-cash stakes.

I tested it last September, so I definitely wasn't going to spend £4k changing an 11 month old Bike for, perhaps, a 20% improvement in mid-range performance. However, I may consider a nice lightly used example once mine's paid off next year as I like new-ish shiny things :D
 
Dont worry rashers having a barney with bob on the ktm section....:clap
 
Hi, first post!

Moving offices next year and will have a commute of about 90 miles compared to my current 60 miles which I do on a fazer 1000. Considering a r1200gs for the job as I've always fancied a GS and have test ridden an F8 before but didn't go ahead.

How do you find the long commute? How long does 110 miles take?
 
Hi, first post!

Moving offices next year and will have a commute of about 90 miles compared to my current 60 miles which I do on a fazer 1000. Considering a r1200gs for the job as I've always fancied a GS and have test ridden an F8 before but didn't go ahead.

How do you find the long commute? How long does 110 miles take?

Your long commute is only 30 miles longer than your current 60 miler.

How long does 110 miles take? It depends on the roads and (obviously) your speed. About twice as long as your 60 miles, if I had to guess.

Welcome to the site.

PS A 1200 GS will server your purposes excellently well, if that's your main question. :beerjug:
 
Hi, first post!

Moving offices next year and will have a commute of about 90 miles compared to my current 60 miles which I do on a fazer 1000. Considering a r1200gs for the job as I've always fancied a GS and have test ridden an F8 before but didn't go ahead.

How do you find the long commute? How long does 110 miles take?

Welcome to the site, mine takes a couple of hours dependant on how you play with the loud button!!!
 
Screen

I reckon we could be twins, been riding over here for 38 years, I sold my '09 GS to buy new twin cam in July this year & I concur with all your comments about the new engine. All i've done to mine is put the givi AF330 screen on & got the winglets from my local BMW dealer. I think they were the same price as NN ones but BMW quality. Both easy to put on if you take a little time. Got to say that these are the best mods i've ever done to a bike. Whether your height matters is debatable, i'm 6'0" tall & now ride with visor up until about 90 mph with very little buffering. Good luck brother ...
 
I tested it last September, so I definitely wasn't going to spend £4k changing an 11 month old Bike for, perhaps, a 20% improvement in mid-range performance. However, I may consider a nice lightly used example once mine's paid off next year as I like new-ish shiny things :D

I was easily seduced by a new shiny thing!! One other point, I think there is more than just an engnie upgrade, I find the gearbox to be smoother as well.
 
Given all the advice, does anyone know the cheapest place to buy the Givi sliding screen for a GS?
 
S'funny you should mention the screen and spots. The very first items I had fitted to my 2010 before I picked her up from the showroom. I test rode both GS and GSA and the screen and spots were the only items that the GSA had that I wanted. ! 12,000 miles later, I'm still glad I got them!!:beerjug:
 
AF330

Try Cieran at DK Motorcycles mate on 01782 250177, about £130 posted I think.
 
S'funny you should mention the screen and spots. The very first items I had fitted to my 2010 before I picked her up from the showroom. I test rode both GS and GSA and the screen and spots were the only items that the GSA had that I wanted. ! 12,000 miles later, I'm still glad I got them!!:beerjug:

The GSA spots illuminate nothing you should be wasting time looking at while riding at night, although I grant they may make the bike more visible.

The bracket they fix to is very handy for attaching HID ballasts though :)
 
A good source for spots,IMHO, is Twalcom from Adventure Bike Warehouse. Better quality than BM and far cheaper.
 

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2 and a bit weeks 1500 miles, still damn happy. Washed it sunday, mmmmm alloy wheels are sooooooooooooo much easier to wash than wires!!!:beerjug::beerjug:
 


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