No. It's definitely crap.

[wileeeeeey]

Had one for a week and returned it. Couldn't believe the hype and calls required to get one. One dealer told me they got 21 in the first delivery and all of them were pre

Better to spend the money on a good, large smartphone like iPhone 7 plus, pixel XL, S8 etc and get it in a waterproof case.

I use my 7 plus in a ram mounts x grip but not in rain and it works perfectly. I use the Waze app as it also shows a good speedo unlike google naps. During rain I have directions via Bluetooth from my phone over the SENA. But that's purely because I hate waterproof cases and don't use the bike in bad weather a lot.

 

[The Grey One]

Had one for a week and returned it. Couldn't believe the hype and calls required to get one. One dealer told me they got 21 in the first delivery and all of them were pre

Better to spend the money on a good, large smartphone like iPhone 7 plus, pixel XL, S8 etc and get it in a waterproof case.

I use my 7 plus in a ram mounts x grip but not in rain and it works perfectly. I use the Waze app as it also shows a good speedo unlike google naps. During rain I have directions via Bluetooth from my phone over the SENA. But that's purely because I hate waterproof cases and don't use the bike in bad weather a lot.

A week is hardly time enough to read the user manual!

I got my first Garmin in early 2003, I used it in the car because the bike was ordered for 1st March that year. In the first couple of weeks there were times when I would have gladly opened a window and thrown the thing as far as I could. I didn't because it cost 1,100 pounds (you think they are expensive now!) but mainly because I realised that I needed to learn how the thing works.

To get the best out of theses devices I think you first of all have to accept that, like any computer, if the results are not what you expect there is a good chance that the machine was just doing what you told it to do. This realisation has helped me to master many new items of technology. My experience is that faults in the equiment are rather rare, operator malfunction however is very common!

For many of us the abilities of our Garmin devices and Garmin planning software make our devices far superior to the rather "jack of all trades" mobile phone approach.

John

 

[TheWitcher]

From the pictures, I have no idea why the device routed you off the A458, then via Garegg Bank to take you back onto the A458 just before Criggion Lane.

As John says, it would be very helpful if you could:

1. Share the route file with us, to see if when we load it into our Garmin devices it does the same. If it's large, host it on something like DropBox, which is free and very easy to do.

2. Tell us the mapset your device is running

3. Tell us the software version your device is using

4. Tell us how you created the route. In BaseCamp, in Mapsource, in your device, in something else? If it was created some time ago, when you favoured curvey roads, tell us that, too.

5. If in something else, what software / method you used to get the route into your GPS device

6. All the preference settings of your device when you imported and displayed the route on your device

That way someone might be able to help you.

Or you can just rant on and on which becomes very dull. I can then close the thread, which will at least cut off your rantings, if only for a while.

I'll try to reply on your questions soon as possible but I'm at work now

 

[TheWitcher]

Not enough info to comment on the route. If you really want an answer then you will need to expand a little, well no, a lot! Tell us what device you are using, what you used to plan the route, what setting do you have on the device and if you used planning software what settings on that. Posting the route might help too.

It will remain an "expensive piece of shit" unless you can discover what went wrong and why. In order to do that you need to be open to the suggestion that the device might just be doing what you ( however inadvertenly ) has told it to do. There is always the possibility of a machne fault but that can only be established if we can exclude all other causes. If you search this forum you will find that Garmin are usuall very good where a unit is at fault.

As I said if you really want help rather than just having a whinge, give us full details, there are enough willing helpers on here who might be able to help.

At least you might learn how to change that car for a bike

John

Sorry if I upset you so much John, but as I mentioned it's very expensive so no matter of your settings, if you want to go from A to B country side then that should not happen anyway. That's what I thought

Adam

 

[Deleted account 200417001]

I have just plotted a route along there and it keeps me on the 458, doesn't take me on there.

Curvy route set? What avoidances?

 

[wileeeeeey]

A week is hardly time enough to read the user manual!

I got my first Garmin in early 2003, I used it in the car because the bike was ordered for 1st March that year. In the first couple of weeks there were times when I would have gladly opened a window and thrown the thing as far as I could. I didn't because it cost 1,100 pounds (you think they are expensive now!) but mainly because I realised that I needed to learn how the thing works.

To get the best out of theses devices I think you first of all have to accept that, like any computer, if the results are not what you expect there is a good chance that the machine was just doing what you told it to do. This realisation has helped me to master many new items of technology. My experience is that faults in the equiment are rather rare, operator malfunction however is very common!

For many of us the abilities of our Garmin devices and Garmin planning software make our devices far superior to the rather "jack of all trades" mobile phone approach.

John

I can appreciate what you say but the device is shit. No two ways about it. The only bits of value I found were having the bike data on screen like PSI and Speed etc without seeing a map.

Try and use Waze on a decent smartphone. It's the best satnav you'll ever use. I have factory fitted navs in both cars and don't touch them, just use Waze and one of my satnavs is on a 2017 BMW - which is also shit.

 

[Wapping]

I have just plotted a route along there and it keeps me on the 458, doesn't take me on there.

Curvy route set? What avoidances?

Thanks for that.

I assume that you had your device set to fastest time and didn't have windy roads selected as an option?

If so, what happens if you select windy roads? Does it then deviate off the A458 and onto the short stretch of side roads shown in the bod's picture? In short, can you find a way to reproduce what he finds?

 

[Wapping]

Had one for a week and returned it.

What was wrong with it? How easy was it to get your money back? I only ask as several bods seem very disappointed with theirs but don't seem to have plucked up enough courage to ask for a return. Your hands-on experience may well prove invaluable to them.

Couldn't believe the hype and calls required to get one. One dealer told me they got 21 in the first delivery and all of them were pre.

Were you part of the hype, calling around to get one as you seem to have been doing, only to end up frustrated that 21 bods had got their must have orders in earlier than you?

 

[The Grey One]

Sorry if I upset you so much John, but as I mentioned it's very expensive so no matter of your settings, if you want to go from A to B country side then that should not happen anyway. That's what I thought

Adam

You didn't upset me at all. You asked a qustion that was impossible to answer without further info. I asked for that info so that I and other might help. The price of the thing has little to do with it, if it didn't do what you expected there are two possiblities. 1, it can't do what you want. and 2, it did what you told it but you are unaware of just what that was. If you are no prepared to accept both possibilities then returning the device is obviously the right choice

I'm not sure why you expect it to d as you thought it should "no matter of your settings". Settings are there for you to tell the device what to do.

John

 

[Davel]

I've had an issue with mine too.

Yesterday, we left Arras for the tunnel. We had planned to get there as early as possible and I had seen signs for Calais when I was in town the day before. So I knew the peage was close by.

So we started off along different roads and with no sign of getting on to the Peage route. I stopped after a while and yes it was on 'avoid toll roads', so I changed that and the saved setting was still for the fastest route.

We then came to the peage and joined it, following the signs for Calais. Despite the change, the Nav v1 tried to take me off the peage at every junction.

I've checked and saved fastest route setting and also unchecked all the options to avoid - and saved those too.

Never had any issue with my Nav 5.

 

[The Grey One]

I've had an issue with mine too.

Yesterday, we left Arras for the tunnel. We had planned to get there as early as possible and I had seen signs for Calais when I was in town the day before. So I knew the peage was close by.

So we started off along different roads and with no sign of getting on to the Peage route. I stopped after a while and yes it was on 'avoid toll roads', so I changed that and the saved setting was still for the fastest route.

We then came to the peage and joined it, following the signs for Calais. Despite the change, the Nav v1 tried to take me off the peage at every junction.

I've checked and saved fastest route setting and also unchecked all the options to avoid - and saved those too.

Never had any issue with my Nav 5.

Any chance you also had "avoid motorways" ticked?

John

 

[wileeeeeey]

What was wrong with it? How easy was it to get your money back? I only ask as several bods seem very disappointed with theirs but don't seem to have plucked up enough courage to ask for a return. Your hands-on experience may well prove invaluable to them.

I was 'lucky' enough to have one that turned off in the cradle a few times for no reason and with massive lag between screens (even after firmware reinstall) within 28 days so I rejected it and the dealer had no choice. However they were nice about it.

Were you part of the hype, calling around to get one as you seem to have been doing, only to end up frustrated that 21 bods had got their must have orders in earlier than you?

Not upset 21 other that people had one reserved and I didn't just more shocked that it was a hard to get/reserve list item. Thought I could just pop in and buy one.

 

[autogs]

Any chance you also had "avoid motorways" ticked?

John

he shoots he scores!

 

[Davel]

Nope - checked that.

No goal !!

 

[The Grey One]

Nope - checked that.

No goal !!

Using the motorcycle setting ? That has been known to cause strange routing on various devices. Something caused it to try to take you off the autoroute. As it dd it at every junction it suggests that it is some setting somewhere telling it to do so. Now this could be bug in the software or it could be a user variable setting, either way it would help others if we could get to the bottom of it.

John

John

 

[Davel]

Yes on motorcycle setting but have updated it again today so will see how we get on.

 

[The Grey One]

Yes on motorcycle setting but have updated it again today so will see how we get on.

OK, keep us informed.

I had to stop using the motorcyle setting as I could never find out just why it screwed up routes. Typically a route would work fine until, often for no apparent reason, it would recaculate in very strange ways. Also using the simple "where to" function and selecting a know waypoint would result in odd routing. I remember wanting a route from Bridgnorth to Evesham, it should take around an hour but the arrival time was over 2 hours. Switching to the car setting has solved these problems. I could not find out why, as far as I could see I had set both settings to be exactly the same. I posted about it on here but I don't think it was ever resolved. I would still like to know but since thecar setting does what I require it causes me no real problems.

John

 

[Nutty]

Interesting that some folk are still chirping in with the old "user error" theory, yet more people are joining the thread with issues on the 6 that they never had on the 5.

 

[The Grey One]

Interesting that some folk are still chirping in with the old "user error" theory, yet more people are joining the thread with issues on the 6 that they never had on the 5.

denying even the possibility of what you call user error is not interesting , its rather pathetic. I have never said that operator malfunction is the only explanation but to close your mind to the possibility is less than helpfull.

John

 

[Wreford Miles]

a good craftsman never blames his tools...

Anyway what is specifically to blame about the way the new 6 works over older versions?

Slightly off topic but on a similar theme, being an old dinasour I never trust sat navs and always think I know best so I take/waste time seeing where it intends to take me looking to avoid that route through the city when the ring road would be quicker or the opposite when going west through Ledbury etc.. and on many regular routes I'll look to perfect the back doubles.

Now in my office of youngsters many commute using Wazes and that has shown when I question them on routes taken to be nearly as smart as me!