Open Street Maps (OSM)

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I have never bothered mucking about with OSM downloads, never finding much wrong with Garmin mapping running on Garmin devices off the the BaseCamp or Mapsource platforms. But, with a spare Nav 5 to hand and a modest sized SD card, I'd thought I'd give it a go. Here are my findings:

(1) Are OSM maps better than Garmin maps?

Well, it's free to download and it covers the world; so that's a plus. How many people will actually want - or ever need - routable maps of downtown Laos or Luzon Island (as opposed to Tesco in Rhyll) is debatable but they are there if you want them. Zooming in and out in BaseCamp at high detail on a large screen Mac, I could see some difference in the fine detail, for instance the small road to my parent's former house in Provence was not shown in OSM maps, but was there in the latest Garmin maps. This was using the standard OSM maps; I haven't yet tried the updated routable version, which I read shows one way streets, bridges and the like. I'd say it was honours reasonably even; one will sometimes be better than the other, perhaps.

(2) Does OSM score over a Garmin map and any subsequent free map updates of usually one a quarter?

If you want to download the whole of western Europe in one go, probably no. Why? You have to build the OSM maps in tiles and its limited by size when it comes to the downloads. This brings us back to the question of whether you really need all the Garmin maps from northern Finland to the tip of Spain (and all the countries, cities, towns, villages, roads, streets and lanes in between) to hand on your GPS device, available in an instant 365 days a year? Of course not but as the Garmin maps come as a block, the sacrifice of perhaps three hours to download and have Garmin Express automatically install the lot overnight is no great problem. If though you are happy to have just France or or just the particular area you are going to (the Ardennes, for instance) on your device, then OSM will fit the bill admirably.

(3) Are OSM maps easy to download and install onto a computer and onto a Garmin device?

Yes. I am no IT wizard; I simply read a couple of websites on how to do it and gave it a go. The OSM software was reasonably intuitive and the download - I just chose Belgium as a trial - easy enough. The download installed into Basecamp on my Mac without a problem. Similarly, using Garmin's Mapinstall, it went straight onto the Nav 5's SD card without a glitch. I have subsequently downloaded the detailed OSM map tiles for all of France, Belgium and parts of Germany without any problem, too. I am not sure if loading one set of detailed OSM map tiles onto an SD card replaces all of the other detailed OSM maps that were there before. It would be easy to find out if I loaded Sweden in.

(4) Can you have Garmin and OSM maps on the same SD card and run both on a Nav 5?

Yes but you cannot run both at the same time. Go to your stored maps and tick (or untick) the maps you want to run or not. As the Garmin whole of Europe base map is always there - and as you probbaly only have detailed OSM maps of a particular limited area - you'll see the map display change between base detail and full detail when you drag the screen around when you run the OSM maps on your device.

(5) Is OSM fully routable?

Yes, just chose the routable version and then make sure you chose the right version depending on whether you have a Mac or a Windows based computer.

(6) Have I tried working with just the single un-routable map tiles?

No but I see no reason why they wouldn't work. In a sense they'd be like a paper map.

(7) Would I go out of my way to use OSM over Garmin maps?

Probably not. In a way it's rather like SKY TV, either you like it (and don't mind paying) or you don't. But I would if I had a basic GPS device or just wanted a map of say Sydney to Cairns and nothing else.


To sum up: I'm glad I now know how it works and that I'll be able use OSM if I wanted to. The learning curve, including reading a couple of websites, choosing the OSM map tiles, the download, the subsequent installation onto my Mac and Nav V's SD card and then a bit of playing around, took perhaps an hour. Have a go, you probably can't break anything.
 
OSM works well where the maker of your satnav stops supporting your device. OSM is keeping many Garmin 2610s running. I used them for 4 years on my 2610 but finally bought a Zumo as the processor in the 2610 was very slow to update itself if you had to take a diversion, changed your mind etc. This was okay when I was travelling by myself but became a PITA when I was leading a group around Alsace & Burgundy last year. Although, if you use a Zumo in curvy road mode it takes ages to replot a route anyway.
 
Wessie makes a good point. On unsupported or basic GPS devices, with limited storage space / memory, then OSM maps would definitely be the way to go. On the latest Garmin devices, with more powerful processors and bags of memory via SD cards, less so I think. Mix in the now (free) regular Garmin detailed map updates - over a vast area of Europe, all loadable in one go - Garmin probably wins overall by a small / medium margin.

Going to Senegal or to downtown Rio? OSM, would win, I think. Going to America or Australia? The choice would be free from OSM or money spent with Garmin. It's the old SKY versus Freeview debate, again.
 
What I didn't clarify, is that over time, each tile in the OSM maps has more data put into it as they build the database. This means your 2610 processor has to sort through more bytes of information before it finds the byte you need. In 2012 the 2610 coped okay with the OSM maps but in 2015 the detail increased, especially in urban areas like Reims slowing down on the fly updates. Still much better than trying to get by on the last 2610 update from Garmin in 2009 which is woefully out of date now.

From a Mapsource point of view, it uses the OSM data just like the Garmin data - just save the OSM maps to the same fold on your machine and you will get a drop down tab for the newer maps.
 
I used OSM maps on my 2610 for several years because the latest versions of the Garmin maps were not available for that device. At the time I was living in Austria and the OSM maps were more accurate in that area. As an example a bridge over the river Drau that as built before we arrived in 2008 has only just been shown on the 2016.3 Garmin maps. This was even more pronounced the further east I travelled. In Bosnia the Garmin maps were a work of fiction!

Last year I bought a 390 which came with the latest Garmin maps, for our trip through Romania I still found the OSM maps essential. As I had both on the device I could make direct comparisons, whilst the Garmin maps were certainly better in Hungary and Romania than they were in Bosnia they were still not as accurate as the OSM ones

I now back in the UK and use OSM maps for preference. There are two pubs in the Worcestershire village I now live in, Garmin has the oldest one of them in the wrong place. Before we moved to Austria in 2008 the Garmin maps of the UK were better than the OSM versions, now the reverse is the case. There is now far more detail on the OSM versions. I have been planning a trip to Scotland and several locations were impossible to pinpoint on the Garmin map but were clearly shown on the OSM maps.

I continue to keep both the 390 and the car Garmin up to date together with my PC but I find the OSM versions more reliable and in many cases far better detailed. Recently my wife had to drive to a meeting on university campus, she had been instructed to park in the visitors car park. The Garmin map showed several car parks but none labelled visitors, but this was clearly marked on the OSM map. I simply made this a waypoint before changing back to the Garmin map, made the route and transferred it to the car device (which only has Garmin mapping).

So for use in the UK the OSM has the edge but the Garmin will get you to most places. In Europe the OSM is better and for eastern Europe much better. I would not travel to the Balkans, for instance,with only a Garmin map for company

The only downsides are that the OSM files being more detailed they take up more memory so that having the whole of Europe on the device is not an option. Also they don't have tunnels programmed in as on the Garmin maps so you still get "lost satellite" announcements in said tunnels

John
 
I was wondering how often the individual OSM map tiles are updated, whether it was quarterly, daily or ad-hoc?

As Wessie said, it's easy enough to have OSM and Garmin maps sitting on your PC or Mac (within BaseCamp or Mapsource, it matters not) and flick between the two, just as the Grey One did, to find a specific car park. Similarly, easy to have both maps sitting on a decent GPS device and flick between them there, too.

There was a string of new roads I came across in France at Easter, it will be interesting to see if they feature on either OSM or Garmin's latest maps.
 
My new Zumo 390 got confused as soon as I got off the train on 23 March as they have altered the road layout as you exit the Eurotunnel terminal. I'll have to revert to the WPS (wessie positioning system) to get on the Guines road...
 
Going to Senegal or to downtown Rio? OSM, would win, I think. Going to America or Australia? The choice would be free from OSM or money spent with Garmin. It's the old SKY versus Freeview debate, again.

I planned and led a tour of Alaska using OSM on my 550. I chose it because I was too tight to buy the Garmin map, just to use it once. The OSM worked perfectly...
 
I have been using them for holidays and business trips outside the EU, added as supp.img files on the SD card generally only a few tiles around the city I'm off to. Got caught out last month with my z660 taking me into 'district9' of Pretoria after dark, as it didn't load the map and I ended up missing a turning to my hotel via the basemap. Needed the new style one which I replaced on my device the next day, but had to fall back on iPhone to navigate out. Noticed it coming out of the airport, but the direct point to point of the base maps give you off-route almost immediately, and it had me down as on a different road. Otherwise they're good maps if you pick the right version for your device :)
 
My new Zumo 390 got confused as soon as I got off the train on 23 March as they have altered the road layout as you exit the Eurotunnel terminal. I'll have to revert to the WPS (wessie positioning system) to get on the Guines road...

I too found that. They seem to have run an exit road up inside the traditional, off the train, up the ramp, turn right at the top of the ramp, curve to the right, pass by the fuel station....

You still pass by the fuel station, it's the bit before that's changed.

It's more amusing (and confusing) when you've agreed to meet some bods at the fuel station, only to learn that they have coned off the turn right at the top of the ramp after leaving the train, forcing you to turn left. Tres amusing as they (probably don't) say en France.
 


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