Our 1st R1200GS SE arrives

[Decster]

Why would I do this? They won't even take an order from me

Why dont you buy the bike in Switzerland, Austria, Italy, France or even Germany?

Its Business innit. Works both ways, except Bahnstormers has staff that have to be paid.

Bahnstormers is very customer orientated dont go making the mistake of treating them like a stealer.

My 2p

 

[WindyChuffer]

'cos the Swiss Franc is worth a lot, whilst the pound is worth fek all (compared to 18 months ago). If you'd sold your house at the time Northern Rock went down, and put the cash in Swiss Francs, you'd be laughing right now...

Remember when the £ bought ~US$2 ?

 

[autogs]

magnum stop fecking moaning,if they wont sell to you be a big boy and accept it,there under no obligation to sell to you are they?

btw bmw dealers have a gentlemens aggrement that export sales go through park lane

 

[Magnum]

magnum stop fecking moaning,if they wont sell to you be a big boy and accept it,there under no obligation to sell to you are they?

btw bmw dealers have a gentlemens aggrement that export sales go through park lane

I have accepted it. I'm giving my business to another dealer who understands that ALL customers should be treated equally, not just those that live in their immediate vicinity.

 

[Magnum]

'cos the Swiss Franc is worth a lot, whilst the pound is worth fek all (compared to 18 months ago). If you'd sold your house at the time Northern Rock went down, and put the cash in Swiss Francs, you'd be laughing right now...

Remember when the £ bought ~US$2 ?

That's part of the reason. The main reason is that the UK SE has a much higher specification than the Swiss SE. For example both the Dynamic and Premium Packages are included in the price of the UK version.

 

[WindyChuffer]

Autogs - Magnum isn't moaning ! He's entering into a public debate, and rightly voting with his wallet.

...My area of responsibility is Hampshire and because we pride ourselves on building a long term relationship with our customers, locality matters, as the dealership wouldn’t survive on selling bikes alone.

This localism attitude really winds me up. Such a backward way of thinking, what with the Internet smashing down barriers and changing the way we deal with geographies. But if that's the way the Bahnstormer wants to play it, then no more parts orders for them from me! Plenty more non-local-to-me dealers who'd be happy to supply, and willing to discount too...

 

[Magnum]

Autogs - Magnum isn't moaning ! He's entering into a public debate, and rightly voting with his wallet.

This localism attitude really winds me up. Such a backward way of thinking, what with the Internet smashing down barriers and changing the way we deal with geographies. But if that's the way the Bahnstormer wants to play it, then no more parts orders for them from me! Plenty more non-local-to-me dealers who'd be happy to supply, and willing to discount too...

Thank you

That sort of sums up my thoughts on the matter.

As a businessman I think their attitude will backfire on them. There's only so much business you can get from your immediate locality. The most successful businesses already realise this and cast their net wider.

 

[Decster]

Autogs - Magnum isn't moaning ! He's entering into a public debate, and rightly voting with his wallet.

This localism attitude really winds me up. Such a backward way of thinking, what with the Internet smashing down barriers and changing the way we deal with geographies. But if that's the way the Bahnstormer wants to play it, then no more parts orders for them from me! Plenty more non-local-to-me dealers who'd be happy to supply, and willing to discount too...

Bahnstormer is getting 5 special bikes. He is looking after local customers. Now if you don't like that deal with it. Nothing to do with localism he is look after his customers who some of them happen to live locally. Bahnstormer is a very good Dealer. Go read his posts and not all his customers are local, some guys on here travel to him as he apparently provides a top service for the money.

I dont think Bahnstormers are upset that he is voting with his wallet. He is not going to come back from Switzerland for a service, helmet, tyres, oil, etc....

But he is having a go at the dealer, unfairly IMO.

 

[WindyChuffer]

...My area of responsibility is Hampshire...

So its quite clear: If you don't live in Hampshire, fek off.



They'll be checking ID at the door next...

 

[autogs]

do you honestly think this will cause barhnstormer any loss of revenue,

ffs get real,

and yes magnum was having a moan

discussion my eye just another whinging git who didnt get his own way

 

[BBB61]

Bahnstormer is getting 5 special bikes. He is looking after local customers. Now if you don't like that deal with it. Nothing to do with localism he is look after his customers who some of them happen to live locally.

And Magnum would have been one of those customers if Bahnstormer sold him a bike, but by declining to sell him one they have lost his custom for ever, and possibly others who find the action by Bahnstormers distasteful.

 

[WindyChuffer]

do you honestly think this will cause barhnstormer any loss of revenue,

err yes as they've made it quite plain they only want customers from Hampshire !!!


(and pi**ed off a lot of people who have read this thread, but not contributed - 4,527 views of this thread so far !!! )

 

[BBB61]

do you honestly think this will cause barhnstormer any loss of revenue,

ffs get real,

and yes magnum was having a moan

discussion my eye just another whinging git who didnt get his own way

If you can't contribute anything useful to the debate apart from making inflammatory comments, it's far better to keep schtum

 

[Decster]

So its quite clear: If you don't live in Hampshire, fek off.



They'll be checking ID at the door next...

its quite clear that BuMW appoint dealers based on lots of criteria, and they have areas of responsibility and Bahnstormers dont do Switzerland strangely...

If dealers dont abide by criteria set out as part of the dealership i am sure they lose it...so lets make sure a guy in Switzerland gets his bike at the cheapest port in Europe and then fecks off home with no after sales benefit to the dealer. Dont know what planet you are from but it aint caught up with the 21st century.....

 

[Deleted account W]

My area of responsibility is Hampshire and because we pride ourselves on building a long term relationship with our customers, locality matters, as the dealership wouldn’t survive on selling bikes alone. As such would prefer to sell these remaining “limited edition” models within my area, to someone I’m likely to see more often, even if they just pop in for a coffee.

I take it that this means that Bahnstormer want to foster repeat customers by building up a relationship, the "even if they just pop in for coffee" bit implies they're not overly concerned about making money on the service visits.

If this is the case, then if the deal went well selling the bike to Magnum wouldn't he be likely to use them again to buy another bike? He says he likes to change bikes often.

If on the other hand it's the servicing Bahnstormer want then I can see why they won't sell to him. Or to someone anywhere else that won't use them for servicing. As I asked earlier in this thread would they sell to a guy from Scotland?

It looks like they've shot themselves in the foot here for a few extra bucks in servicing profit and the mistaken idea that they won't get repeat custom from selling to someone not local to them, very odd really

 

[Decster]

And Magnum would have been one of those customers if Bahnstormer sold him a bike, but by declining to sell him one they have lost his custom for ever, and possibly others who find the action by Bahnstormers distasteful.

I think Bahnstormers hands are tied in this instance, they get only get 5 bikes initially and he is thinking of his loyal customers who have expressed an interest, and i imagine more than 5 of them have (3 already taken) so he is doing the right thing by his business and proven clients. This is good business as losing proven clients to a maybe future client does not makes sense. Losing a customer in Switzerland is nothing to him. I am sure Magnums attitude in this matter means Bahnstormer might not want him as a customer. I understand a dealer cannot admit to that due to the client is always right BS.

There is nothing distasteful in this. If any other person cannot see that they are probably not worth the hassle or custom either

ALL IMO

 

[Decster]

"even if they just pop in for coffee" ......

Not gonna get many pop ins for a coffee when out on a spin in the Alps....

I think this is not a typical situation it is related to a special limited edition bike.

 

[edmac]

HI,

I've been watching the forum for a while and am seriously considering a GS, originally I was looking at the 650/800 because I thought the 1200 would be too cumbersome for me at 5'9''. I have ridden these and found the height of the 800 OK. On doing a bit of research I noticed the standard 1200 is actually lower than the 800 which threw that into the mix and I am going to take one out soon.

Hey Jettdt,
Go for the 1200, way better drive in my opinion, i am 5'6'' with a 29'' leg, and i drive a 1200 gsa, and love it, u get used to the height

 

[Magnum]

Hey Jettdt,
Go for the 1200, way better drive in my opinion, i am 5'6'' with a 29'' leg, and i drive a 1200 gsa, and love it, u get used to the height

Bloody hell you're doing well. I'm 6ft7in and sometimes I'm close to tiptoes when sat on my GSA.

 

[edmac]

Bloody hell you're doing well. I'm 6ft7in and sometimes I'm close to tiptoes when sat on my GSA.

I didnt say i could touch the ground all the time but a quick side ways shuffle at the lights works fine