Positioning of tax disc holder

[Dahoum]

My rule is, I don’t say anything on the internet to anybody I wouldn’t say to their face.

A very good rule my friend - and if you ever come to a UKGSer meet you'll soon find that the type of thing that is said on here is repeated to people's faces.

Its what makes this a cracking place.

Oh and my tax disc? In the garage

I got pulled two weeks ago for exiting a roundabout "rather sharpish" in Mr. Plod's words.

When he had established that I was the owner, seen my drivers license and taken the piss out of my personalised plate he went for a walk around the bike - I knew what was coming.

"I was just looking amongst all the other stickers to see where your VED disc was?"

'Oh' sez I - 'its back home officer - I didn't want it nicking'

"Well you qualify for a £60 fine then" he tells me. And then goes into detail about how you can now buy high tech disc holders that don't allow the scrotes to remove the disc in one piece and suggested I get one.

"Ok Officer" I says. When we had exchanged more pleasantries I risked it - 'So will I be getting a fine then?'

"Certainly not he says" grinning - "I'm not fining anyone today"

And after I had given him my email so he could sign me up to another Bikesafe course (last one done about 7 years ago) we parted on very pleasant terms.

I like cops me

 

[David Nimrod]

No wonder other bikers generally perceive GS riders as tossers.

I've heard the BMW Club is very nice

 

[Wapping]

A very good rule my friend - and if you ever come to a UKGSer meet you'll soon find that the type of thing that is said on here is repeated to people's faces.

Its what makes this a cracking place.

Oh and my tax disc? In the garage

I got pulled two weeks ago for exiting a roundabout "rather sharpish" in Mr. Plod's words.

When he had established that I was the owner, seen my drivers license and taken the piss out of my personalised plate he went for a walk around the bike - I knew what was coming.

"I was just looking amongst all the other stickers to see where your VED disc was?"

'Oh' sez I - 'its back home officer - I didn't want it nicking'

"Well you qualify for a £60 fine then" he tells me. And then goes into detail about how you can now buy high tech disc holders that don't allow the scrotes to remove the disc in one piece and suggested I get one.

"Ok Officer" I says. When we had exchanged more pleasantries I risked it - 'So will I be getting a fine then?'

"Certainly not he says" grinning - "I'm not fining anyone today"

And after I had given him my email so he could sign me up to another Bikesafe course (last one done about 7 years ago) we parted on very pleasant terms.

I like cops me

A sentiment (and an almost exact same policeman experience) I can share

 

[Boxerboy55]

. . .but I see no point in taking the piss, just ignore the poor fekker.

. . . Wouldn’t it be easier to answer the question and be generous with the accumulated knowledge of the assembled BWM owners.
. . . but it never hurts to ask for advice from people with more experience (well it does on this site).
No wonder other bikers generally perceive GS riders as tossers.

I concur.

 

[Wapping]

I've heard the BMW Club is very nice

Feck off there then

 

[cookie]

The tax disc should be forward of the swinging arm pivot and on the nearside
Valley Boy if you feel the need to ask questions dont be put off by the piss takers.

i thought it was forward of the rider?

 

[Wapping]

i thought it was forward of the rider?

Fill yer boots... a veritable minefield of advice out there:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ta...s=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

The latest (on-line) edition of the Highway Code is suitably vague:

Vehicle Excise Duty (VED).

All motor vehicles used or kept on public roads MUST display a valid Vehicle Excise Duty disc (tax disc) displayed at all times. Even motor vehicles exempt from duty MUST display a tax disc at all times.

[Law VERA sects 29 and 33]

The really keen can read all about it here: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/22/contents

It seems the Secretary of State is THE bod to contact for EXACT details of where to stick it:

(1)A person is guilty of an offence if—

(a)he uses, or keeps, on a public road a vehicle in respect of which vehicle excise duty is chargeable, and

(b)there is not fixed to and exhibited on the vehicle in the manner prescribed by regulations made by the Secretary of State a licence for, or in respect of, the vehicle which is for the time being in force.

 

[David Nimrod]

Feck off there then

Ah, I see that the irony's not lost on you

 

[John Armstrong]

Fill yer boots... a veritable minefield of advice out there:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ta...s=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a

The latest (on-line) edition of the Highway Code is suitably vague:



The really keen can read all about it here: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/22/contents

It seems the Secretary of State is THE bod to contact for EXACT details of where to stick it:

Where's MikeP when you need the actual answer and not some half-baked answer

 

[Wapping]

Ah, I see that the irony's not lost on you

It will be appearing on BBC 2 shortly, no doubt

 

[David Nimrod]

It will be appearing on BBC 2 shortly, no doubt

Thanks for reminding me

 

[Wapping]

The quest for enlightenment is afoot....

Justine Greening, is the bod in HMG with her finger on the pulse of all things displayable.

A northern lass apparently, so Comprehensively educated

Now to find her email address......

 

[Ash]

I find oberon holder best, and never had an issue with police over display.
Yes the picture is old, hence out of date disc.The bracket I used to mount the holder on the subframe is a cateye lamp bracket I got from a cycle shop

Hope this helps

Prop

got one to go on my GSA after seeing IanF had one on his new GSA

 

[STUBBS]

.....and nothing a quick search wouldnt have found the answer to

 

[Wapping]

It's on its way to Whitehall:


Dear Secretary of State for Transport

As it is the season of goodwill and festive cheer, I wonder if you would be as kind as to answer a question that has taxed to exhaustion the whit and intellect of motorcyclists for as long as anyone can remember.

Where and how is a motorcyclist meant to display their tax disc?

I had hoped that the Highway Code might hold the answer. But no, all it says is:

Vehicle Excise Duty (VED).

All motor vehicles used or kept on public roads MUST display a valid Vehicle Excise Duty disc (tax disc) displayed at all times. Even motor vehicles exempt from duty MUST display a tax disc at all times.

[Law VERA sects 29 and 33]

A Google search of VERA sects 29 and 33 was really no more informative, stating (in brief, as these things do go on a bit as you probably know):

(1)A person is guilty of an offence if—

(a)he uses, or keeps, on a public road a vehicle in respect of which vehicle excise duty is chargeable, and

(b)there is not fixed to and exhibited on the vehicle in the manner prescribed by regulations made by the Secretary of State a licence for, or in respect of, the vehicle which is for the time being in force.


A similar Google search for what manner has been prescribed by regulations by your goodself or your predecessor(s) returned nothing. Or at least nothing that I could find.

So, what is the answer?

I do hope you can enlighten me. I would be delighted to march into the pub, brandishing the papers in a style reminiscent of Neville Chamberlain returning from Munich, settling the matter once and for all.

Many thanks for your help.

With kind regards,

Lord Wapping of Wapping

PS Full marks to the PM for standing up to Merkel and her French pal. It's about time someone from our side of the Channel had the balls and common sense to do it.


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I must confess that I meant to Google up how to correctly address a missive to a Secretary of State. No doubt there is a set protocol to be followed, rather as one closes a letter to a bishop with: Kissing the Sacred Ring

 

[SMB]

From http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10021514


Displaying your tax disc

Your vehicle tax disc must be displayed on the passenger side (kerb side) of the vehicle’s windscreen. If there’s no windscreen or you have a motorcycle or sidecar, you should display the tax disc on the kerb side of the vehicle.

so LHS - simple

 

[Wapping]

Oh well, that's that little game over with forever. Ms Greening's answer is going to be very dull I fear.

But it still leaves the door open for everyone's replies to the OP's question.... Where's yours?

Who'll be first?

 

[Micky]

Strewth

Kept mine in my tank bag for the last fifteen years (No ... not the SAME one) and never, but never, had a problem

That's not NOT the same tank bag, but NOT the same tax disc, if ya ken what I mean

 

[Wapping]

That's not NOT the same tank bag, but NOT the same tax disc, if ya ken what I mean

You profligate old sod, tax disks AND different tank bags

 

[Stewart H]

ISTR a requirement for it to be mounted forward of the seat post harking back to when motorcycles had such things.