BBB61
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Yawn...............sleep
Still keeping up with my posts
Just checking in to see you are still posting your usual rubbish Johnny
Prices annouced this morning
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Just checking in to see you are still posting your usual rubbish Johnny
Mad_Accountant
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Nope, it's a good view of motorcycling.
I have been buying Beemers since 1992 and they are better bikes and more affordable to me than they have ever been.
It seems that every day lately I've been riding a liquid cooled BMW 
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DavidJames
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In my view, you don't 'need' an expensive new bike to enjoy riding motorcycles. You should enjoy for what it is, rather than having the latest and greatest. If anyone should have the latest and greatest it should be the commuter who uses the reliability and new fangled functions. It's just an opinion and it might be fucked up compared to others
Well Bob, when I went to school £13,850 - £13,815 = £35.... but that was a long time ago so maybe in today's money it's £2,455Did Ed Balls teach you maths Paul??
BBB61
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Well Bob, when I went to school £13,850 - £13,815 = £35.... but that was a long time ago so maybe in today's money it's £2,455
Indeed, but your guess of £13850 is £2455 over the price of the standard bike, not £35.
Mad_Accountant
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In my view, you don't 'need' an expensive new bike to enjoy riding motorcycles. You should enjoy for what it is, rather than having the latest and greatest. If anyone should have the latest and greatest it should be the commuter who uses the reliability and new fangled functions. It's just an opinion and it might be fucked up compared to others
Again, nope - it's another reasonable opinion.
I actually own an R1200 GSA (two months old) a 20 year old r100r airhead and a 10 year old BMW C1. The airhead is probably the nicest to ride (superb screen, Corbin seat and faultless riding position, coupled with a headlamp that will light up the county) but I have to put up with 39mpg and no
ABS or traction control. Times move on and bikes improve.
But who deserves to own the latest bits of kit? Basically it's whoever chooses to spend their money that way. It's what the economists call opportunity cost. If you have this you can't have that. As I neither smoke nor drink I redirect my spending in other directions.
I love the airhead but should really do the serious miles on the GSA for reasons of safety, economy and reliability. For commuting it is a total no brainer - it's the c1 every time. Don't knock it if you've never tried it. Those bikes were the future of urban transport, BMW realised that 20 years ago. Both the dealers and the buying public were too stupid to know a good thing when they saw it so, sadly, the model failed.
Merry Christmas, enjoy whatever you ride
I don't know about fire blades, but the 1974 R90s cost around £14K in today's money AND there was a lot of whining about price!
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pitternator
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I think the price is a clear reflection of the competition about for the adventure market. BMW sell 25 k GS's a yr...that growth comes from new customers more than old ones methinks. Too high a purchase price just encourages folk to try alternatives. And for existing customers, its incredibly alluring. I have a 6 month old air cooled,but would love to try the new bike.It may make me jealous, but I am just pleased bmw didnt sell the new bike cheaper as it would have serious effect on residuals.
As for a 13k purchase price...yes its alot of money , but the key here is RESIDUALS, cos that is actually what it costs us to run bikes. With low interest rates, the cost of purchasing is small( ie the interest on borrowing or loss on savings). Its the running cost and depreciation which costs .As a comparison, Triumph residuals after 3 yrs are 50% !! So an explorer may cost £5500 in depreciation alone over 3 yrs.
My feeling is the GS will do better than that.
Whilst bikes will never be an investment , I bought my GS with savings rather than a loan , as the actual cost to me per annum of doing so is about £200 loss of interest !....its the loss on resale which I am concerned with...and bmw have historically done better than average for that.?
As for a 13k purchase price...yes its alot of money , but the key here is RESIDUALS, cos that is actually what it costs us to run bikes. With low interest rates, the cost of purchasing is small( ie the interest on borrowing or loss on savings). Its the running cost and depreciation which costs .As a comparison, Triumph residuals after 3 yrs are 50% !! So an explorer may cost £5500 in depreciation alone over 3 yrs.
My feeling is the GS will do better than that.
Whilst bikes will never be an investment , I bought my GS with savings rather than a loan , as the actual cost to me per annum of doing so is about £200 loss of interest !....its the loss on resale which I am concerned with...and bmw have historically done better than average for that.?
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