R1150GS Input Shaft

[Tecumseh]

Riding home a week ago I came out of roundabout and found it difficult to change gear. Managed to limp home the final two miles and phoned my mechanic. I had the clutch replaced 10 months ago and he taught it was the slave cylinder. It isn't and although it's not definitive it looks like it is the input shaft.

Does this mean I have to get a new clutch and gearbox? Looking on ADV rider the costs (in the US) look horrific up to $5,000 to sort. I'm not sure I'm willing to spend more on this bike. So far I've spent £429 to fix the electrics and various issues last August; £430 on a new clutch last April, a £355 service last February, and another £498 service in August 2010. Add on £180 HID conversion and some minor servicing I've done myself plus petrol and this bike has cost me £4,373.69 since I started keeping records in June 2010. I bought the bike in January 2010 for £3,000. (petrol BTW £2,027 servicing £2,346). I use the RoadTrip app on my phone which helps me keep meticolous records.

If it's over a £800 I don't think it economical to fix the damn thing anymore. Its silver adventure with 65,000 miles on the clock, eleven year old. If I choose not to fix what would it be worth or should I break it up myself and sell for parts?

Advice welcome!

 

[ianf]

Are you an accountant?







Seriously, let a good Independant give it a once over, and have them do the work. S/h gearbox + fitting likely worst case?

 

[ChrisH Kerry]

Probably not - but check the gear lever pivot.... my 1150GS wouldn't change down and I found the gear lever wasn't returning fully. Took off the footrest hanger plus gear lever, stripped it and cleaned up the pivot and greased it. Works fine now Worth a look anyway before you give up hope!

 

[(RIP) DitchWater]

If your gear lever's okay you could take it apart yourself to find the problem. You will just need some space, a toolbox and a little bit of reading. Search for my R1150GSA Gearbox thread.

 

[beanwood]

What exactly do you mean it was difficult to change gear ? Gear lever not returning, gears crunching or something else?Was it stuck in a single gear? I personally find the gear change is so easy on these bikes when moving, you hardly need the clutch.

 

[flatdog]

Probably not - but check the gear lever pivot.... my 1150GS wouldn't change down and I found the gear lever wasn't returning fully. Took off the footrest hanger plus gear lever, stripped it and cleaned up the pivot and greased it.

I'd recommend this as a candidate. You must strip the whole assembly as it only takes one missed siezed bush to lead you down the expensive not required gearbox rebuild route.
Then check clutch actuation is correct - fluid levels.

These don't cost anything.

Rule out every area before moving on.

 

[(RIP) Kaister]

Riding home a week ago I came out of roundabout and found it difficult to change gear. ....

Advice welcome!

3 quid for a can of wd-40 and 20 seconds work.

you've been had,mate.

PS - don't get it serviced anymore - just change the oil and filter once a year - it'll be fine.

next please.

 

[Tecumseh]

What exactly do you mean it was difficult to change gear ? Gear lever not returning, gears crunching or something else?Was it stuck in a single gear? I personally find the gear change is so easy on these bikes when moving, you hardly need the clutch.

I had to stamp on the gear lever to go down and use all my strength to go up. Pulling the clutch in didn't disengage the gears and there was a worrying crunching and whirring sound and a smell of burning. Clutchless up shift was equally difficult.

Back to my original question: does a knackered input shaft mean a new gearbox and clutch?

 

[davegs]

Gears

Sounds like the likage I think if the input shaft had stripped it's splines you'd loose drive. To take the pivit shaft off the footrest you'll need to heat it up with a hot air gun as it's fixed with locktight, pull it to bits clean it and lube and put it back I'll bet your probs will disapear, lots of us have had this happen and all thought gear box but thats all it is.
Dave GS

 

[Steptoe]

So far I've spent £429 to fix the electrics and various issues last August; £430 on a new clutch last April,

Advice welcome!

A mechanic would/should have seen any wear on the input shaft when fitting the new clutch ..............

 

[Tecumseh]

A mechanic would/should have seen any wear on the input shaft when fitting the new clutch ..............

This makes me feel more positive.

It's with the mechanic who fitted the clutch last year, do here's hoping!

 

[Tecumseh]

Turned out bike will need a new clutch and a gearbox overhaul rather than a replacement gearbox.

 

[(RIP) Kaister]

are you sure ?

 

[argos]

Get a second opinion,Cheers

 

[davegs]

Get a second opinion,Cheers

And a third sounds like a rip off to me.

 

[waterloo700]

Does your mechanic specialise in BMW's? You should find one quick.


I'm surprised nobody has offered you a couple of hundred to take it off your hands.

 

[Tecumseh]

Does your mechanic specialise in BMW's? You should find one quick.

Jim Hill in Attenborough. Nothing but praise for him on this forum and I've been impressed with his previous work on my bike. In terms of getting a second or third opinion; bike is un-ridable. How many BMW specialists travel to give free advice? Esp. In the spring when all the hobbyists put on their matching leathers, have a service and rack up another 150 miles for the year?

 

[davegs]

Jim Hill in Attenborough. Nothing but praise for him on this forum and I've been impressed with his previous work on my bike. In terms of getting a second or third opinion; bike is un-ridable. How many BMW specialists travel to give free advice? Esp. In the spring when all the hobbyists put on their matching leathers, have a service and rack up another 150 miles for the year?

That kind of cash quite a few given the economical situation.

 

[Tecumseh]

Jim Hill in Attenborough. Nothing but praise for him on this forum

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221874

 

[Tecumseh]

That kind of cash quite a few given the economical situation.

Who are they?