Right - on all points.........
Al
And there rests the case ........
R1200GSA LC v Jaguar XF
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And there rests the case ........
Well thank god the jag driver was aware of the situation, he's probably saved the rider, he visibly pulls the car off the carriageway, without which the rider was going to hit the Jag front and centre which a high chance of fatality.
JB has a point about the piss poor riding, all the signs are there to keep the speed down and take care, even if as appears the road had standing water he was on a GS ffs, little reason for him to be taking the lines and positioning he did.
JB has a point about the piss poor riding, all the signs are there to keep the speed down and take care, even if as appears the road had standing water he was on a GS ffs, little reason for him to be taking the lines and positioning he did.
Deleted account Aberdeen GS
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Talking out of your arse!
F=MVsquared.
http://www.nuffieldfoundation.org/practical-physics/proof-f-mv2r
Your maths is several thousand percent in error .
Typical of these forums. So many uninformed, poorly educated idiots spouting complete crap.
Deleted account Aberdeen GS
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I'm glad that some poster make the observation; "what if the roles were reversed?"
How would we feel if an XF with excess speed wiped out a GS rider?
Thank goodness there are some balanced posts....pleasing!
How would we feel if an XF with excess speed wiped out a GS rider?
Thank goodness there are some balanced posts....pleasing!
POL382
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Other than he survived my source has had no further updates.
Didn't look like an elastic collision to me, closer to a dead stop, either way you do not add the speed of the vehicles together.
agent2494
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Anyone looked at the grid reference/northings,Easting to see where it is?
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Ozz
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No he's right. It's not Force its Momentum; I'm getting myself confused. I did say that my maths ran out a long time ago...
Kinetic Energy = 1⁄2 × mass × speed squared.
Force = Mass x Acceleration
Momentum = mass x velocity
I give up...
Kinetic Energy = 1⁄2 × mass × speed squared.
Force = Mass x Acceleration
Momentum = mass x velocity
I give up...
dubster
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That is one lucky tosser.. what the fuck was he thinking? 
not much probably
not much probably
After reading all the controversy I have re watched the video
The rider was already losing it well before the apex and drifting across running wide which shows poor road position for that particular corner IMO and that was before he hit the standing water which was only a bit of a puddle. the lean angle of the bike was well within the limit of such a superb handling machine.
I do hope he is ok but if pushed i have to agree with JB that the rider was to blame in as much as he got that corner very very wrong
The rider was already losing it well before the apex and drifting across running wide which shows poor road position for that particular corner IMO and that was before he hit the standing water which was only a bit of a puddle. the lean angle of the bike was well within the limit of such a superb handling machine.
I do hope he is ok but if pushed i have to agree with JB that the rider was to blame in as much as he got that corner very very wrong
The curvature appears steady radius (not a tightening parabolic curve) so it would be reasonable to presume that once the bike had been initially "set-up" for the bend, all would be fine and dandy. Unless, of course, there was something just out of sight he'd tried to avoid, and which he'd had to adjust his line for, and which isn't visible in the footage?
I agree but if you watch again you can see that from where he first becomes visible he is already starting to push wide whilst maintaining the same lean angle which to me suggests that he just got it wrong. It is of course possible that there was a bit of target fixation on the small ( it was only a little splash) puddle causing the running wide in the first instance. Ive done it myself and I'm sure many others have too. Look where you want to go not where you don't is a mantra often heard
He was either going too fast for the corner, too fast for the conditions or too fast for his ability !
One of those fuck ups that somedays you get away with other days as in this case you don't
One of the dangers of winter lay-ups and rusty riding technique ?!
I know that road and went along it yesterday morning albeit in the opposite direction
That stretch of 40 is just as you leave a dead straight half mile stretch of 30 through Highclere village and you drop down a hill in to the 40 then it's a sharp left hand bend over a hump back bridge
All speed related if you ask me
The GSA WC was too much of an awesome steed for the rider
As they say ' Speeding Kills'
He was caught out by the sheer power
Had it been Hilltopped ?
There is a hump back bridge if that's what you mean? 
On an awesome all year round go anywhere machine like that? Surely not!
The Jag driver could easily have saved the bikers life with his move into the verge - turning a full head on into more of a glancing impact - he's a lucky man, and I can't see anything else other than 100% rider error - the car drivers only fault was being there in the first place, a fact he did his utmost to rectify.
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