R1250GS (2022) stolen from garage overnight.

[DING-DONG]

I have a roadblock on the front, disc lock housed between the rear drive shaft housing, impossible to get in with a grinder and I’ve sent my centre start off to mark (cymarc) to have the centre stand modified to lock when down.

I know this guy whom had his gs stolen.

 

[Chisurz]

Shit, this is getting close. Which part of Reading? Did you rent a council lock up? I used PITBOXX for storage for 5 months. Secured car and bike storage.

North of the river...

 

[Chisurz]

Really sorry to hear that mate. Assume garage not adjoined to the house and a garage block somewhere?

Garage not actually attached to the house, but a private garage nonetheless. As they broke in to the garage the crime is recorded as a burglary, which is more serious than a "simple" bike theft. But as the garage is not attached to the house, they downgrade the priority...

 

[TechnoGSA]

Garage not actually attached to the house, but a private garage nonetheless. As they broke in to the garage the crime is recorded as a burglary, which is more serious than a "simple" bike theft. But as the garage is not attached to the house, they downgrade the priority...

Bike/car theft is like shoplifting is out of control, they know there's almost no chance of getting caught, even when the get caught, little will happen. Insurance company's couldn't give a shit they just keep upping the premiums to keep their profit margins Healthy. They only losers are us!

 

[boatman]

Nothing will change for the good now in Britain unless and , until there is a military coup and some seriously hard right wing governance .
The country is Fucked !

 

[SBD]

Nothing will change for the good now in Britain unless and , until there is a military coup and some seriously hard right wing governance .
The country is Fucked !

So living in an authoritarian state appeals to you? I hope you don’t get your wish.

But there are plenty of states to which you could move should you wish. But if you do, I hope you never make a trivial mistake that leads to your arrest, incarceration without trial, and simply being forgotten. Or worse.

Human rights are fundamental. What seems to have been forgotten is that with rights there are responsibilities: don’t kill or injure people, don’t force people to do stuff, don’t nick their property, drive on the correct side of the road. Simple rules that make society function. I don’t know if the issue is simply an inevitable result of there being too many people, but other countries seem to function, so I think we have lost something in educating children to be useful and functional members of society.

You might blame that on “the lefties”, but the social changes of the sixties and seventies were a reaction to the repression (and sheer lack of money) of the immediate post-war years. Somewhere down the line there has to be a functional justice system that sees offenders being punished sufficiently to deter others from following their path. But equally, there has to be employment that allows more than subsistence, decent living standards, and space to live with dignity.

 

[boatman]

So living in an authoritarian state appeals to you? I hope you don’t get your wish.

But there are plenty of states to which you could move should you wish. But if you do, I hope you never make a trivial mistake that leads to your arrest, incarceration without trial, and simply being forgotten. Or worse.

Human rights are fundamental. What seems to have been forgotten is that with rights there are responsibilities: don’t kill or injure people, don’t force people to do stuff, don’t nick their property, drive on the correct side of the road. Simple rules that make society function. I don’t know if the issue is simply an inevitable result of there being too many people, but other countries seem to function, so I think we have lost something in educating children to be useful and functional members of society.

You might blame that on “the lefties”, but the social changes of the sixties and seventies were a reaction to the repression (and sheer lack of money) of the immediate post-war years. Somewhere down the line there has to be a functional justice system that sees offenders being punished sufficiently to deter others from following their path. But equally, there has to be employment that allows more than subsistence, decent living standards, and space to live with dignity.

What we are doing now ,,,, needs a complete Re- Set ,,,
The National debt is now up to 95 % of GDP ,,, some 25 % of That is now indexed !
The country is deindustrialising ,,,and has been flooded with UNINVITED IMMIGRATION diluting the indigenous population . ISLAM is very much on the rise ,,, and Britain is slowly but surely taking a disastrous path toward Sectarian Violence .
I see NO Alternative but serious hard right wing governance .

 

[DJ123]

What we are doing now ,,,, needs a complete Re- Set ,,,
The National debt is now up to 95 % of GDP ,,, some 25 % of That is now indexed !
The country is deindustrialising ,,,and has been flooded with UNINVITED IMMIGRATION diluting the indigenous population . ISLAM is very much on the rise ,,, and Britain is slowly but surely taking a disastrous path toward Sectarian Violence .
I see NO Alternative but serious hard right wing governance .

And yet all nothing to do with a Bike in Reading getting nicked.....

 

[placebo]

What we are doing now ,,,, needs a complete Re- Set ,,,
The National debt is now up to 95 % of GDP ,,, some 25 % of That is now indexed !
The country is deindustrialising ,,,and has been flooded with UNINVITED IMMIGRATION diluting the indigenous population . ISLAM is very much on the rise ,,, and Britain is slowly but surely taking a disastrous path toward Sectarian Violence .
I see NO Alternative but serious hard right wing governance .

It's too late. The only silver lining is that Gen Z will have to deal with it!

 

[boatman]

And yet all nothing to do with a Bike in Reading getting nicked.....

True - - my Apologies for hi jacking the thread sorry

 

[zoltan]

Human rights are fundamental.

The problem is that those who should protect and enforce those rights have abandoned any logic. Especially the enforcement bit. When law and order breaks down, chaos will follow.
Meanwhile I will protect my property as I see fit without breaking the law.

 

[luke scott]

And yet all nothing to do with a Bike in Reading getting nicked.....

Well said. Part of the reason I drifted away from this site a few years ago was the far right undertone slipping in unchecked. Thankfully it went away . . . . until the anti Islam comment above.

 

[richh]

Why not? It’s truly a shite cult.

No religion should be above inspection / ridicule.


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[Red]

Did you have any luck OP? If it's a 22 plate it probably has the factory tracker (Datatool). They might be able to help as it's still connected to the battery and running. You might have to buy a year's sub for their help but small price to pay.

 

[richh]

I'm betting not. It's not kids generally stealing BMW's to rag around the local estate.

Stolen to order and whisked off in a container to sunnier climes.

 

[Chisurz]

Did you have any luck OP? If it's a 22 plate it probably has the factory tracker (Datatool). They might be able to help as it's still connected to the battery and running. You might have to buy a year's sub for their help but small price to pay.

Thank you , a good thought, but (sadly) it doesn't. The original came with Datatag markings and a couple of Datatag transponders located on the bike. Having spoken to the people at Datatag (to make sure they mark the bike as stolen) the transponders are passive, so respond to an input signal from a scanning device, but are not active transmitting trackers. The way I've understood it is that the Datatag transponders are a bit like the chips you'd put in your dog or cat - you need to find an honest vet to scan them and then report what they've found...

 

[Chisurz]

I'm betting not. It's not kids generally stealing BMW's to rag around the local estate.

Stolen to order and whisked off in a container to sunnier climes.

...and that was pretty much the opinion of the claim handlers too...

 

[Wapping]

I don’t take kindly to having increased premiums if it’s not my fault.

It’s not the ‘fault’ of your insurer either.

The good news is that the insurer will pay you (often very generously and quickly) for the theft or damage to your vehicle, up to and including its total loss …..

…. or you can post a ‘Please fund me to replace / repair my vehicle as it wasn’t my fault’ and the troops can rally round, chipping in their pennies or pounds up to (potentially) several thousand…..

…. Or you dive into your savings or start saving….

The choices are yours.

PS The great news is that your insurer will (very often) pay you out when it it is your ‘fault, too. The ‘Please fund me’ appeal might not be so forthcoming.

 

[Thejoybringer]

It’s not the ‘fault’ of your insurer either.

The good news is that the insurer will pay you (often very generously and quickly) for the theft or damage to your vehicle, up to and including its total loss …..

…. or you can post a ‘Please fund me to replace / repair my vehicle as it wasn’t my fault’ and the troops can rally round, chipping in their pennies or pounds up to (potentially) several thousand…..

…. Or you dive into your savings or start saving….

The choices are yours.

PS The great news is that your insurer will (very often) pay you out when it it is your ‘fault, too. The ‘Please fund me’ appeal might not be so forthcoming.

Isn’t that that the reason we have insurance, so they can pay out in the event of a claim…when my XR was nicked last year, thats is the very first claim I have had in over 60 years of riding…you do the math’s.
Now for the next five years my bike and car insurance will be increased and they both have, big time.

 

[Wapping]

Isn’t that that the reason we have insurance, so they can pay out in the event of a claim…when my XR was nicked last year, thats is the very first claim I have had in over 60 years of riding…you do the math’s.
Now for the next five years my bike and car insurance will be increased and they both have, big time.

The primary reason you have motor vehicle insurance, is because it’s demanded by law. We don’t get the luxury of choice in the UK, thankfully * The second reason, is to put you back into the same (presumably happy) position you were in the moment before the loss occurred. In short, it’s a contract of indemnity and not, as some view it, an investment with some form of guaranteed annual return.

Losses by their nature are sudden and unforeseen. That you have never been obliged (other than once) to claim over a 60 year period is perhaps down to nothing more than luck, who knows? Others are less fortunate, whether through bad luck (“It wasn’t my fault, mate”) or through (possibly) some contributory factor of their own making, up to and including negligence and prosecutable offences, or again maybe down to nothing more than their own bad luck at that one moment in time.

Just be careful that you don’t now plough your vehicle onto the queue of schoolgirls waiting for the bus, before you fall off the perch or, if you do, be very glad the government forced you to buy insurance….



* or, if you are very rich, you can post an irrevocable letter of credit with HMG. I think the figure is about GBP 15,000,000 but don’t quote me. Your bank (even if you ask very nicely) probably won’t write you out one then and there and certainly not for nothing.