Rear puncture on 1150

Woodie

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Went to use my bike last week and found I had a flat rear so had to use the car :( .Pumped it up when I got home and soon went down again so I assume my options are - squirt some tyre stuff in and ride it somewhere to mend / replace or remove the wheel and just take that. Thought I'd be brave and try the latter....

Do I 'just' remove the 4 bolts and gently pull the wheel off or do I need to do something to the brake caliper? I'll probably put some bricks under the engine 'just in case' as well. I've managed to loosen one nut so far but then my pathetic socket set bust so I've now got a socket to fit my torque wrench so hopefully that will work.
 
I assume my options are - squirt some tyre stuff in and ride it somewhere to mend / replace or remove the wheel and just take that.
Or.....find the hole, temporary repair it (usefull practice for when it happens miles from home), and then ride bike to tyre centre for permenant repair/renewal.:thumb
 
caliper off, silencer off is preferable, 4 wheel nuts, hang on ,,,,,,BEFORE u take brake off, apply brake whilst loosening nuts:thumb2
then a permanent plug from the inside, i do em at home but cheap enough at shop,
 
Or.....find the hole, temporary repair it (usefull practice for when it happens miles from home), and then ride bike to tyre centre for permenant repair/renewal.:thumb


Only problem with that (apart from the practice at a repair) is that most places will make a charge for the ride in/ride out service.

Its a very useful bit of knowledge knowing how to take the wheel off. Once you've done it you'll wonder why you worried.

When I did it the first time.. the only irritating bit was lining up the holes to get the bolts back in.. shame bmw didn't see fit to put a little 'notch' guide in to make that easier....

DONT USE A TORQUE WRENCH TO REMOVE THE BOLTS !!

you will knacker it... only use a Torque wrench to tighten - never to loosen.
 
When I did it the first time.. the only irritating bit was lining up the holes to get the bolts back in.. shame bmw didn't see fit to put a little 'notch' guide in to make that easier....

Top tip :rob

I had a rummage around a tin of old nuts and bolts in my garage (everybody has a tin of old nuts and bolts in their garage don't they - you know the one's you keep just in case:thumb). I found a bolt with the same thread as the rear wheel bolts and cut the head off it. When I need to refit the wheel I screw the headless bolt in just a couple of turns into the topmost bolt hole and this acts a guide for fitting the wheel and lining up the rest of the holes. The beauty is that the headless bolt also takes the weight of the wheel and enables you to easily slot in a couple of the real bolts. When you have a couple of the bolts in place you can remove the headless bolt and the job's a good 'un without any of the usual sweating, grappling and cursing. :clap:clap:D:D
 
Mmmm, sounds a bit complicated to me :( . I think I'll take it to Micheldever and watch what they do and I might learn something.

Thanks for all the tips, I'll tighten the one I managed to loosen and fill her up with some squirty stuff. :augie
 
Top tip :rob

I had a rummage around a tin of old nuts and bolts in my garage (everybody has a tin of old nuts and bolts in their garage don't they - you know the one's you keep just in case:thumb). I found a bolt with the same thread as the rear wheel bolts and cut the head off it. When I need to refit the wheel I screw the headless bolt in just a couple of turns into the topmost bolt hole and this acts a guide for fitting the wheel and lining up the rest of the holes. The beauty is that the headless bolt also takes the weight of the wheel and enables you to easily slot in a couple of the real bolts. When you have a couple of the bolts in place you can remove the headless bolt and the job's a good 'un without any of the usual sweating, grappling and cursing. :clap:clap:D:D
Well done!, wunderlich sell a special(?), tool for this which is as you described. You don't need to take the silencer off!! ridiculous, nor need the back brake on, put it on the centre stand in first gear and away you go, you will need to take off the reasr caliperr first. Good idea to check the inner pad for wear while your at it.
dave gs.
 
Mmmm, sounds a bit complicated to me :( . I think I'll take it to Micheldever and watch what they do and I might learn something.

Thanks for all the tips, I'll tighten the one I managed to loosen and fill her up with some squirty stuff. :augie

Hi Woodie,

I think the best way to learn something is to do it yourself, and this is one of the easiest jobs to do on your bike. Even as a first timer, it shouldn't take more than fifteen minutes, but if it takes half an hour, it doesn't matter; you're learning...

I've never had to remove the silencer from mine, but I've got a Remus on an 1100, so that might make a difference. If you're going to remove it, do this first. If you've got the floppy plastic mudguard thing fitted it might make things easier if you remove that as well, though it isn't necessary. Before you start,make sure you've got the sockets/Allen keys you'll need to hand. I use the Allen type socket attachments. Oh, and put that torque wrench well out of arms/harms reach until you're putting things back on! Right:
  1. As mentioned above, get someone to operate the brake pedal, then just loosen the wheel bolts. Not much, you just need to break the 'grip'. (If you've no-one to operate the brake, put the bike in to first gear, remembering to select neutral again once the bolts are loosened).
  2. Now remove the brake calliper mounting bolts (Allen head).
    If you have ABS, you'll probably find that the wire to the sensor is wire-tied to the brake line. I don't cut these, I just remove the sensor as well. Take out the small Allen headed bolt, then gently work the sensor out. Leave the shims in place on the sensor so you don't lose them.

  3. Now remove the calliper. You'll probably have to work it gently back-and-forth against the disc to push the pads back enough to free them from the disc. I usually find it comes off after doing this, and wiggling it up and rearwards.
  4. Hang the caliper and sensor out of the way so not to strain the brake hose. Keep well away from the brake pedal; you don't want to push the pads out now!
  5. Now turn the wheel so that you have the bolts at 12/3/6 and 9 o'clock. This will help you line the holes up when you come to put your wheel back on.
  6. Remove the bolts, and gently lift the wheel, and pull it towards you. (It sits on a small lip on the final drive; lifting it slightly makes sure it doesn't slip off this lip, so avoiding any damage to it)
  7. If you've removed the silencer and plastic mudguard thing, your wheel should now just roll out to the rear. If you haven't removed them, lay the wheel about 45 degrees, top away from you, and you should be able to work it out.
Now take your wheel to get the puncture fixed/new tyre.

When putting the wheel back on:
  1. Align the bolt holes to the clock face; this should line them up with the bolt holes in the final drive. I usually allow the wheel to just gently touch the final drive, then lift slightly to clear the flange, and it should 'click' in to place.
  2. Put the top bolt in first, and tighten it up until the cone is just touching the wheel; this will prevent the wheel slipping back off the flange as you put the bottom bolt in, again just enough to touch the wheel. Now put the other two bolts in. Lightly nip up the bolts with a socket, I do about a quarter turn at a time on each, in 12-6-3-9 o'clock order.
  3. Re-fit the brake calliper. Again, a bit of a wiggle down and forwards usually works for me. Don't forget the washers on the bolts; if you have the ABS sensor, the mounting bracket for this forms the washer on the forward calliper bolt, so gently replace the ABS sensor before inserting this bolt, making sure not to lose/damage the shims. Nip the bolts up, then tighten them to the required torque setting. (Find these in the Haynes manual)
  4. Replace the mudguard thingy, and silencer if you removed these.
  5. Tighten the wheel bolts to the required setting, again tightening a quarter turn each 12-6-3-9 o'clock, until the wrench clicks on each in turn. Doing them in this 'opposites' fashion helps to make sure the wheel is seated properly.
  6. The rest of the bolts (Mudguard thingy, silencer) I usually nip up with my ratchet handle, but use the torque wrench here if you're happier that way.
  7. Give the wheel a spin by hand, just to make sure it turns freely.
  8. Gently pump the brake pedal by hand. This pushes the pads back out to their correct distance from the disc. If you don't do this, you'll need to be carrying clean underwear the first time you apply the brake when riding!
That's it, job done. That lot might look a bit complicated, but it really isn't; As I said, about fifteen minutes each way. And once you've done it, it's a doddle the next time, which is when you might need it to be a doddle.

Cheers,

Dave.

Anyone else feel free to add comments, or point out owt I've missed.

 
Mmmm, sounds a bit complicated to me :( . I think I'll take it to Micheldever and watch what they do and I might learn something.

Thanks for all the tips, I'll tighten the one I managed to loosen and fill her up with some squirty stuff. :augie

Honestly, worth a try taking it off. It's not that difficult. Follow the manual and the advice above. You can do it.

The reason for this wild claim is that even I, mechanical incompetent, learned to do it.:aidan
 
mitcheldever wheel your bike into a bit you can't get to to do the work. So you'll not get to really see anything.
 
Use the puncture repair kit that comes with the bike :nenau

Good enough for a permanent repair in most cases.
 
:robYup, I agree with the previous post, I used one of the "tip top" repair plugs a couple of thousand miles ago and it's still fine.
400 kilometers and 50mph? load of old tosh!
 
I got one of those mushroom plug kits you can get from Busters, the sort which comes with a sort of pistol effect thing to force the 'shroom thrrough the tyre from the outside. You then pull it back from the outside, so it seals tight. Takes about three minutes. Done 1200 miles at up to 90mph since then. No probs. Fantastic.
 
I got one of those mushroom plug kits you can get from Busters, the sort which comes with a sort of pistol effect thing to force the 'shroom thrrough the tyre from the outside. You then pull it back from the outside, so it seals tight. Takes about three minutes. Done 1200 miles at up to 90mph since then. No probs. Fantastic.

Yes, it's amaazing what you can do if you have to, I once simply stuck a patch on the inside of a tubeless tyre as a tempoary "get you home" it was still there over a year later!!
 
Rear wheel

I give up what happens if somthing difficult occurs? abosolutly ridiculous.
 
It's a b****r ain't it!

New 12gs - less than a month old - out for a ride last Sat afternoon. Sunday morning - back tyre flat - bloody great staple in it. Wheel off and in to repairers - guess what - irrepairable!! Puncture too close to edge of tyre. New tyre required to replace my new tyre! Gutted!

As they say, s**t happens (but it could've been worse).

Al
 
It's off....

Printed off Dave's instructions and decided to give it a go and first half were spot on, wheel off in 10 minutes. Well chuffed. :bow :bounce1

Think the treads nearly had it so might as well get a new tyre, any recommendations between standard tourance and the new EXPs?

As getting the wheel off was so easy I might have a go at changing the rear disc and pads.........
 


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