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Or buy the Tractive kit without the Touratech markup.
Regret not optioning ESA on new 1250 GSA!!
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Or buy the Tractive kit without the Touratech markup.
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He could do that, but would still need the Original oem ESA shocks as a donor, the TT are built up from scratch, not just the shock and spring, it is a lot more.
With good quality Wilbers or Ohlins (or other options) - I think your long-term value is increased. (And the likelihood of a mega-bill in the interim - is diminished)
At 3yrs old - you are likely to find quite a few interested in the ‘manual’ option, or remove the shocks, service and sell on separately.
Meantime - you have a better-handling bike to enjoy.
I’ve had the comment “Electronic is the way to go - look at all the race teams!”
Mmmmm.... their electronic controls are added to top-quality shocks and forks - not cheap shit with Ponteffract cakes as piston seals.
I've got Ohlins TTX shocks on mine and removed the ESA.
Fookin brilliant, and encourage you to ride way faster than normal...
In my opinion, they are not better than a fully working BMW ESA system sprung correctly to rider weight.
But where they are leagues ahead is durability for servicing, holding composure for heat buildup, flexibility to tune your ride.
Where they fall down, is manual adjustment yourself needs a Masters Degree in Maths and Physics. But if you be clever, it's worth the effort.
I love my Ohlins setup.
Fookin brilliant, and encourage you to ride way faster than normal...
In my opinion, they are not better than a fully working BMW ESA system sprung correctly to rider weight.
But where they are leagues ahead is durability for servicing, holding composure for heat buildup, flexibility to tune your ride.
Where they fall down, is manual adjustment yourself needs a Masters Degree in Maths and Physics. But if you be clever, it's worth the effort.
I love my Ohlins setup.
What I mean by durability is....
BMW ESA will shit the bed around 14000 miles, and will lose performance after that.... even if it was any good from day one and correctly sprung for your weight.
Ohlins TTX will last the lifetime of the bike, and give you consistent quality performance with servicing options.
BMW ESA will shit the bed around 14000 miles, and will lose performance after that.... even if it was any good from day one and correctly sprung for your weight.
Ohlins TTX will last the lifetime of the bike, and give you consistent quality performance with servicing options.
£3000 for something that should have cost £825.. youll be £££ out.. get some Ohlins and have the best ride out there...
Exactly
Summed up to a tee
Nope - you had a lucky escape NOT buying ESA
Have you ridden a bike with top end suspension?
I would not buy a GS without ESA.The ZF Units on the new 1250 work great.I would not spend 2 grand on manual Ohlin$$$ TTX like I did on my 2017 GSA and have the yellow triangle (ESA warning) lit up all the time...very annoying as also that Ohlins shocks are not ESA compatible...
Otherwise I probably would change to Ohlins again for being rebuildable.If I keep the bike longer than 3 years (which I doubt...) I would get ESA-Wilbers which are ESA compatible & rebuildable;the of both worlds !
Otherwise the 2019 ESA shocks set on max/dynamic work at least as good as Ohlins TTX on my 2017 !
That's my opinion...
To order a GS without ESA...might as well get a Afreeka Twin and be booored and pray everyday to not get a flat with the tubed tires that are so 1970...
Carbs would be so much better than fuel injection too...
Otherwise I probably would change to Ohlins again for being rebuildable.If I keep the bike longer than 3 years (which I doubt...
) I would get ESA-Wilbers which are ESA compatible & rebuildable;the of both worlds !Otherwise the 2019 ESA shocks set on max/dynamic work at least as good as Ohlins TTX on my 2017 !
That's my opinion...
To order a GS without ESA...might as well get a Afreeka Twin and be booored and pray everyday to not get a flat with the tubed tires that are so 1970...
Carbs would be so much better than fuel injection too...
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I would not buy a GS without ESA.The ZF Units on the new 1250 work great.I would not spend 2 grand on manual Ohlin$$$ TTX like I did on my 2017 GSA and have the yellow triangle (ESA warning) lit up all the time...very annoying as also that Ohlins shocks are not ESA compatible...
Otherwise I probably would change to Ohlins again for being rebuildable.If I keep the bike longer than 3 years (which I doubt...
Otherwise the 2019 ESA shocks set on max/dynamic work at least as good as Ohlins TTX on my 2017 !
That's my opinion...
To order a GS without ESA...might as well get a Afreeka Twin and be booored and pray everyday to not get a flat with the tubed tires that are so 1970...
Carbs would be so much better than fuel injection too...
You do know Ohlins has special wizardy for the yellow triangle, I thought you of all people would have known that....................
It doesn’t really matter. The bikes residuals are goosed.
The uk market is based on the TE model with all its bells and whistles. Not oddballs with third party suspension. Whether we like it or not.
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You do know Ohlins has special wizardy for the yellow triangle, I thought you of all people would have known that....................
I've already told him my Ohlins TTX setup has electrickery to remove yellow warning triangle but he isn't listening
@Smogbob the only device I know are the ones TT sells.But the joos here at TT-USA want 2 times $250 for these resistor plugs that cost them probably $10 to make...
...criminal ! You would think a company like Ohlins would have these included when you buy their shocks...but no they say you don't need them...but you do !
But Ohlins just got bough out by US giant Tenneco so soon I expect their stuff to be crap,too...
...criminal ! You would think a company like Ohlins would have these included when you buy their shocks...but no they say you don't need them...but you do !But Ohlins just got bough out by US giant Tenneco so soon I expect their stuff to be crap,too...
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I've already told him my Ohlins TTX setup has electrickery to remove yellow warning triangle but he isn't listening
I think it is a bot..................
actually not bots are logical...............
I've already told him my Ohlins TTX setup has electrickery to remove yellow warning triangle but he isn't listening
He never listens. The guy is an imbecile.
After the bike turns 3yrs old - the smart buyer will be more interested in a Wilbers/Ohlins fitted bike.
While I accept that isn’t you............ there are many.
Thanks for all the replies. As always, we have a spread of opinions! 
I'm broadly quite 'encouraged' now to properly check out e.g. Ohlins etc - as retro fitting ESA at £3k is bonkers, as indeed it is spending around £4500+ to part exchange my 2 month old bike for a GSA TE. A speculative £1500 or so suspension investment seems like it could be the way forward. I'm not sure whether I have rose tinted glasses, but my very first 2004 GS 1200 had a nicer / plusher ride than this 2019 bike to be honest! Having said that, I had not experienced ESA back then. I would love to ride one with after markets - so if there is anyone in the south with one, please let me know!
I've not ridden anything with top end suspension, hence why I am such a big fan of ESA. For me, it's not about the electronic adjustment 'on the fly', it's soley about the magic carpet ride!
I'm broadly quite 'encouraged' now to properly check out e.g. Ohlins etc - as retro fitting ESA at £3k is bonkers, as indeed it is spending around £4500+ to part exchange my 2 month old bike for a GSA TE. A speculative £1500 or so suspension investment seems like it could be the way forward. I'm not sure whether I have rose tinted glasses, but my very first 2004 GS 1200 had a nicer / plusher ride than this 2019 bike to be honest! Having said that, I had not experienced ESA back then. I would love to ride one with after markets - so if there is anyone in the south with one, please let me know!I've not ridden anything with top end suspension, hence why I am such a big fan of ESA. For me, it's not about the electronic adjustment 'on the fly', it's soley about the magic carpet ride!
Thanks for all the replies. As always, we have a spread of opinions!
I've not ridden anything with top end suspension, hence why I am such a big fan of ESA. For me, it's not about the electronic adjustment 'on the fly', it's soley about the magic carpet ride!
Whats your rider weight, and where do you live?
Hi Paul. I paid £15400 for it 2 months ago. It has 700 miles and I have just had the 600 mile first service done. It has cruise control, heated grips and OEM fog lights added. It's 'as new' obviously. £14k?
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