Regret not optioning ESA on new 1250 GSA!!

[Boxerlust]

Warlord that is a nice looking bike you have there...
My 2017 GSA-TB was the same except your BMW cast wheels and the black spring on your TTX and mine obviously also showed a yellow triangle all the time after I put on the Ohlin$...
I got 2 more questions for you !
Who makes the plugs that defeat the ESA fault code and how much ?
Did you feel a difference in handling after you changed your bike from the stock spoke wheels to the slightly lighter GS cast wheels ?

 

[Warlord]

Warlord that is a nice looking bike you have there...
My 2017 GSA-TB was the same except your BMW cast wheels and the black spring on your TTX and mine obviously also showed a yellow triangle all the time after I put on the Ohlin$...
I got 2 more questions for you !
Who makes the plugs that defeat the ESA fault code and how much ?

Thanks, yes I love my R1200 it's a really nice bike

I bought my ESA Plugs from FTR Suspension in the UK. They quote £95 each, and you need two for front and rear. But I supposedly got them for free if I purchased my Ohlins from them, which I did.

However, the Plugs came in a black box with branding on it

Andreani Group International

The sticker code on it said....

Andreani Group

01.L13.001
CABLAGGIO PER MONO BMW
2pz

Barcode : 12345

Tracked it all down to here:-

https://www.andreanigroup.com/products/01:L13:001/?KIT+CAVO+INGANNATORE+ESA+nr.+2+pezzi

Italian Translation : This wiring allows the exclusion of the error in the display, after the TTX installation

 

[Warlord]

Did you feel a difference in handling after you changed your bike from the stock spoke wheels to the slightly lighter GS cast wheels ?

Here's all the information on this thread....

https://www.ukgser.com/forums/showt...with-GS-Alloy-Wheels-Pics?highlight=gs+alloys

I weighed them with my tyres as a direct comparison...

Front Spoked Wheel = 13.8 kg
Front Alloy Wheel = 13.4 kg

Rear Spoked Wheel = 12.7 kg
Rear Alloy Wheel = 11.1 kg

I didn't notice much difference, but then I flick between wheelsets depending what I'm doing and time of year. So maybe they weren't on long enough.

I just use a cheap EL-50448 TPMS Activation Tool from China to reprogram the Tyre Pressure Monitoring System from each wheel set (Plus OBDLink MX and MotoScan Smartphone App)

What I LOVE about the GS Alloys is they are so easy to do manual tyre pressure checks (90 degree valve) and CLEAN after a days riding.... so so much easier and nicer.... and no spoke worries about tension, caliper clearance, runout, rusting bollox....

Alloys are luxury in comparison

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

I had to dig to find it was a press bike - although the blob of paint on every single bolt gave away that it had been “prepped”


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Blobs of paint on bolts ?

Most BMW technicians do that to check they've correctly torqued the bolts up and checked them over

My bike is like a kid has drawn on it, after coming out of the workshop

Quick visual check for the technician - nowt special about just 'press' bikes

 

[JohnnyBoxer]

Presumably yours is a 2018 GSA? They were about £1000 cheaper than the 1250s I think. Anyway, all deals vary as you know - with dealers making their margins at both ends of the deal....OR not depending on multiple other motives and variables! I part exchanged my 2017 GS TE for a notional 12k against the GSA. I previously bought a new 2017 GSA TE for £15500 (factoring the part exchange number and 'cost to change').


Everything has a bottom line. (I should add I have bought 4 new bmw bikes since 2017!)

Blimey you must like your dealer to keep donating him your money by buying 4 bikes in 18 months

Do you have trouble making your mind up?

There is therapy for that condition

 

[Wapping]

LBL GSA, leaving aside why you specified your new GSA with bog standard suspension, when your experience told you that the latest state of the art ESA gave a ‘magic carpet’ ride.... take yourself and the bike to MCT, who will be able to sort you and your bike out. Trust me on that.

http://www.mctsuspension.co.uk/

They are not a million miles away from London.

In the meantime, here’s a song to cheer you up:

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[Nutty]

Haha... work really well

At looking shite!

 

[Boxerlust]

Thanks Warlord for the info !
Only 0,4 Kg difference on the front wheel between cast and spoke won't make a big difference...and 90 degree valve stems come on the spoked 1250's...
1.6 kilo on the rear will probably make the bike faster on acceleration,theoretically !

 

[LBJ GSA]

LBL GSA, leaving aside why you specified your new GSA with bog standard suspension, when your experience told you that the latest state of the art ESA gave a ‘magic carpet’ ride.... take yourself and the bike to MCT, who will be able to sort you and your bike out. Trust me on that.

http://www.mctsuspension.co.uk/

They are not a million miles away from London.

In the meantime, here’s a song to cheer you up:

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Thanks dude. I'll speak to them as part of my research! Suffolk coast is a fair way from the south east......especially on a bike you don't really want to ride! :-/

 

[LBJ GSA]

Blimey you must like your dealer to keep donating him your money by buying 4 bikes in 18 months

Do you have trouble making your mind up?

There is therapy for that condition

Joking aside, I came out of all those deals fairly level! I did lose my very favourable position on the first 'bargain' GSA TE (which I should have kept as it was actually perfect!) but I had a bit of a mid life crisis and 'thought' I needed a S100OR. Great fun, but I missed GS comfort, so went back to a GS TE. Got to know 3 BMW dealers fairly well. Had the first GS for 7 years, but have been less settled in recent years with my selections and yes, lots of indecision! The answer (if money were no object) would be 3 bikes in the garage, not one.

 

[LBJ GSA]

Thanks Warlord for the info !
Only 0,4 Kg difference on the front wheel between cast and spoke won't make a big difference...and 90 degree valve stems come on the spoked 1250's...
1.6 kilo on the rear will probably make the bike faster on acceleration,theoretically !

Sadly not on the base GSAs. They come with with the old vertical valve stems which can be tricky to access amongst the spokes. I use a extender clip on thing which I keep on the bike. Spoked wheels looks nicer for sure, but the case wheels are whole lot easier to live with I think.

 

[Wapping]

Thanks dude. I'll speak to them as part of my research! Suffolk coast is a fair way from the south east......especially on a bike you don't really want to ride! :-/

From central London it’s 97 miles, on two roads, M11 / A14. It’s hardly the corrugated roads of the piste. Blokes have ridden much, much further on the standard suspension, without needing a wheelchair afterwards.

 

[(RIP) Edvard Munch]

What a load of faffing.

Just buy number 5 and spec it how you should have last time round

 

[paulR]

Hi Paul. I paid £15400 for it 2 months ago. It has 700 miles and I have just had the 600 mile first service done. It has cruise control, heated grips and OEM fog lights added. It's 'as new' obviously. £14k?

A good price, but I think I’ll have to wait for it to depreciate a bit further before it’s in my price range! It would be the spec I’d be looking for though, although I would like the gear assist. Not sure if that can be retro fitted

 

[oldnfat]

A good price, but I think I’ll have to wait for it to depreciate a bit further before it’s in my price range! It would be the spec I’d be looking for though, although I would like the gear assist. Not sure if that can be retro fitted

Don’t bother with the gear assist...it is shite on the GSA compared to KTM....clunky on the two I have tried.

 

[Warlord]

Don’t bother with the gear assist...it is shite on the GSA compared to KTM....clunky on the two I have tried.

Not clunky on my bike....

 

[paulR]

I’ve got the gear assist on my 2014 RT and I like it, you do have to give the gear lever a firm prod though.

 

[LBJ GSA]

From central London it’s 97 miles, on two roads, M11 / A14. It’s hardly the corrugated roads of the piste. Blokes have ridden much, much further on the standard suspension, without needing a wheelchair afterwards.

It's nice up there too. I've been to that 'Adventure bike shop' place a few times near Sudbury.

 

[LBJ GSA]

What a load of faffing.

Just buy number 5 and spec it how you should have last time round

Likely to be the outcome.

 

[LBJ GSA]

A good price, but I think I’ll have to wait for it to depreciate a bit further before it’s in my price range! It would be the spec I’d be looking for though, although I would like the gear assist. Not sure if that can be retro fitted

Yes, gear shift assist can be retrofitted. It's about £400-500 though. From memory, £395 from factory.