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[Deadskin]

Bought a 1150 two months before the 1150 ADV came out
Bought a 1200 six months before the 1200 ADV came out
Have a 1200 ADV coming next month and now this news

I give up

 

[ssi]

Isn't that nearly a HP2

Not a HP2 - just a more powerful GS with the RT engine and perhaps optional 17" road wheels for those of us GS owners who only ride roads.

The GSA will still be there.

 

[Mouse]

Could be true.... The 1150 would 'trickle' at barely above tickover in 1st gear, and then pull away smoothly (without any clutch involvement) as the throttle was opened. The 1200 won't do this - no 'trickle', no smooth running just above idle, and (if you try to pull away from this speed without clutch slip or rear brake) a surge of power with the slightest tweak of the throttle. Unpleasant? Not quite, but bordering on it. Lots more clutch-slipping required in slow traffic than on the 1150. But don't "they all do that, Sir"?

Mine doesn't do that. It will happily "trickle" in 1st and then pull away quite smoothly. It used to be a lot like you describe though, before one of the more recent fuel mapping software updates (last autumn I think). Since that update it's a transformed bike.

 

[pineweasel]

BMW to stop building the 1200 GS in September for one month and re launch it with more power and new ABS.

The new Continental Teves brake system has been rumoured for several months - see the OTL Intel site for more details:
http://www.bmwra.org/otl/intel/

 

[Dahoum]

Albeit from the horse's mouth......

Shergar - or Red Rum

 

[lkyphl]

BMW to stop building the 1200 GS in September for one month and re launch it with more power and new ABS.

There's a four-month wait for a new 1200GS here in Australia ; BMW are selling every GS they can make. Why would they stop building 'em for a month ?
It doesn't take a month to introduce a running change to a production line product if it's something like higher compression/different valve timing/cams etc.

This has been a most productive rumour .....

Phil

 

[Schwarz Baron]

Could be true.... The 1150 would 'trickle' at barely above tickover in 1st gear, and then pull away smoothly (without any clutch involvement) as the throttle was opened. The 1200 won't do this - no 'trickle', no smooth running just above idle, and (if you try to pull away from this speed without clutch slip or rear brake) a surge of power with the slightest tweak of the throttle. Unpleasant? Not quite, but bordering on it. Lots more clutch-slipping required in slow traffic than on the 1150. But don't "they all do that, Sir"?

I had the impression that the 1200 was geared higher than the 1150 because of this behaviour since it won't run at walking speed in 1st (or any) gear. Probably it's just due to the 1200 having a much lighter flywheel.

You must've had a sick 1200 then

 

[JayGee]

Might not the significant thing about this rumour be the redesign of the ABS system which might be much more important than a hike in power output. With all the problems that BMW have had with the servoed ABS I could well see them coming out with a better designed system, first on the GS and then the rest of the range.

 

[sproggy]

Mine doesn't do that. It will happily "trickle" in 1st and then pull away quite smoothly. It used to be a lot like you describe though, before one of the more recent fuel mapping software updates (last autumn I think). Since that update it's a transformed bike.

Mine's an '06 bike so has the latest software....in theory. I have to admit that it's a lot better now (approaching 2000 miles) than it was when it was new but still not as good as the 1150. Maybe it just needs more miles on it, as it does seem to be getting smoother all the time.

 

[Deleted account 211025001]

Maybe it just needs more miles on it, as it does seem to be getting smoother all the time.

I was worried about mine when I first got it, but, by 6000 miles it was transformed; it was a lot smoother and would pull very cleanly from low down (soon after, I fitted a full Bos system and this further improved things to the point where I could if I wished carry one gear higher (at the same speed) than before.

15000 miles now and whilst the chenges are not as dramatic it really does seem to carry on getting smoother...............

Andres

 

[JayGee]

Mine's an '06 bike so has the latest software....in theory. I have to admit that it's a lot better now (approaching 2000 miles) than it was when it was new but still not as good as the 1150. Maybe it just needs more miles on it, as it does seem to be getting smoother all the time.

Defininately needs more miles, it wasn't untill around 6000 that mine began to run smoother (well comparitively!). Not many bikes will take walking pace without clutch slip and I don't really see that as an issue. The R12 is best ridden hard but I do think the throttle on/off is a bit abrupt at slow speed, it's hardly a power surge more a problem with the fuel injection (like many of the first fuel injected bikes of a few years ago, you'd have thought BMW would have got it right by now as they were one of the first with FI).

 

[Trip]

Mine's an '06 bike so has the latest software....in theory. I have to admit that it's a lot better now (approaching 2000 miles) than it was when it was new but still not as good as the 1150. Maybe it just needs more miles on it, as it does seem to be getting smoother all the time.

I've got two R12GSs, one at 8,000 miles and one at 17,000. The engine on the older bike is markedly smoother than the newer one.

Trip

 

[Engineer]

There's a four-month wait for a new 1200GS here in Australia ; BMW are selling every GS they can make. Why would they stop building 'em for a month ?
It doesn't take a month to introduce a running change to a production line product if it's something like higher compression/different valve timing/cams etc.

This has been a most productive rumour .....

Phil

In most of continental Europe it has always been traditional for manufacturing to shut down during August - it's when they take their holidays! - nothing more sinister than that!!!!