Slovenia - about 1000 miles from Calais !

If there is a chance, try and include the road between Kranjska Gora to Trenta. It goes over the Vrsic Pass with 50 numbered hairpins, 26 on one side and 24 on the other. The road continues down a valley alongside the Soca river, with blue water(well it looks blue/green) against the white rocks.
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Grossglockner Pass - a must do for road and scenery ?
Or is it overrated, too busy in summer and a nightmare like the Stelvio was when I got stuck behind some Dutch twat towing a caravan !
 
Grossglockner Pass - a must do for road and scenery ?
Or is it overrated, too busy in summer and a nightmare like the Stelvio was when I got stuck behind some Dutch twat towing a caravan !

it gets very busy on weekends - if you rode it on Mon 5 Aug before getting to you base for work it would be relatively quiet. There is a steep toll so make sure you know that before you commit. As for getting stuck behind traffic, it is engineered in an Austrian fashion not Italian. There is a white line down the middle and plenty of overtaking opportunities. As in this streetview: https://maps.app.goo.gl/FJq45VsA9PB6zLEo6
 
it gets very busy on weekends - if you rode it on Mon 5 Aug before getting to you base for work it would be relatively quiet. There is a steep toll so make sure you know that before you commit. As for getting stuck behind traffic, it is engineered in an Austrian fashion not Italian. There is a white line down the middle and plenty of overtaking opportunities. As in this streetview: https://maps.app.goo.gl/FJq45VsA9PB6zLEo6
bloody hell - 33 Euros !
 
If there is a chance, try and include the road between Kranjska Gora to Trenta. It goes over the Vrsic Pass with 50 numbered hairpins, 26 on one side and 24 on the other. The road continues down a valley alongside the Soca river, with blue water(well it looks blue/green) against the white rocks.
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Four of us did that route 3 days ago in the pissing rain. Lovely road with cobblestone corners on the hairpins punctuated by random tarmac patches. Clouds were down and all we saw of Triglav was the bottom and the campsite. A good day out.
 
Four of us did that route 3 days ago in the pissing rain. Lovely road with cobblestone corners on the hairpins punctuated by random tarmac patches. Clouds were down and all we saw of Triglav was the bottom and the campsite. A good day out.
I'd forgotten about the cobblestones, pity it was so wet for you. I persuaded GSEddie, previously of this parish, to camp near Soca and do the pass. It rained all the time and we passed hours chatting to each other, each in our small tents, while it poured. Despite the rain, we went up the pass, down the other side and back to the campsite, so 50 plus 50 hairpins.

I went over the pass once, while there was a Harley meetup in nearby Villach. Many of the Harvey's were trying to go up the pass, not all of them made it. I saw 3 on their side on the hairpins. On this pass it's only proper hairpins which are numbered, other sharp corners don't count.

Apologies to the Op for this diversion...

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Channel tunnel tickets booked (feck me that’s got expensive) - luckily using the company credit card.
Rough route planned there and back.
Never done the Grossglockner so it’s on the list on the route down.
Tried to minimise time in Switzerland on the way back - just never feel welcome there.
Never realised you need a sticker for Slovenia just like Austria and Switzerland.

Leaving on the 2nd August after breakfast for the slog down to Folkestone.

Cheers !

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on the way to Obernai, swing east of Nancy after Pont a Mousson, towards Sarrebourg. The Nancy traffic is horrible.
 
Why was it bedlam at the chunnel

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Thanks the the GSER massive for the hotel recommendation in St Quentin

30 degrees on the way here - the room has air con - result 👍

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Why was it bedlam at the chunnel

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queuing to load - not sure why. was after French passport control. They certainly weren’t the issue.
Cars reversing and cutting about everywhere.
 
Grossglockner Pass - a must do for road and scenery ?
Or is it overrated, too busy in summer and a nightmare like the Stelvio was when I got stuck behind some Dutch twat towing a caravan !
Just overrated really. Full of mad krauts on beemers taking up the full road .
Couple of years ago a German GS hit a car on the wrong side of the road. We saved his life but not his leg.
He blamed the car driver even though he was in the wrong.
 
Why was it bedlam at the chunnel

It is (or rather was) one of the busiest days of the year. The Chunnel had some operating problems earlier, which knocked on into later departures, exacerbated (perhaps) as some people arrive very much ahead of their scheduled bookings, which contributes towards blocking things up.

We arrived in reasonable time for our 16:36 crossing yesterday and left near enough on time.

PS There was a long queue for departures on the French side (ie coming into to the UK) at about 18:00 local time, stretching back over the connecting bridge to the motorway. This was, no doubt, connected to earlier problems and /or passport control, in relation to bods seeking entry into ‘fortress Britain’.
 


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