so if bm quality is carp ( which it is)

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I've got a Yamaha Super Tenere which is simply superb. Well worth a look, and bombproof reliability to date at 17k miles.
 
I had a Yamaha Diversion 900. Also bomb proof & still going strong at 73K when i sold it. But seriously not the same as the Beemer. It weighs the same as the GSA but being less tall feels smaller with feet down at sub walking speed. But get going and it feels like a slug in comparison yet somehow twitchy at the same time.
 
birdseye said:
Iwas hoping for a rational and sensible discussion with the forum members intelligent enough to be able to see both the pro and con of an individual bike. doesnt look like that includes you!
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You can scratch me from your list of hopefuls, too :pullface
 
Time Traveller said:
I would steer clear of the Stelvio though. Great looking bike, but even the relatively new demonstrator I tried when shopping around was pissing clutch fluid everywhere and several other issues of a similar ilk...why the dealer thought he could pursuade me to buy one by sitting me on that thing is beyond the wit of man!
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So the dealer was an idiot for not sorting the bike before putting it on the shop floor, but that incident is hardly indicative of the marque, otherwise using your logic people should stay clear of BMWs with all their inherent faults (final drive failures FPCs etc)

I swapped a GS1150 that I had owned for 6 years for a new Stelvio back in 2009, the Guzzi had 2 minor problems in 2 years (speedo sensor failure and a faulty plug cap)
I then part ex'ed it two years ago having covered nearly 10k miles, for the new NTX 32 litre tank model, which after 11,000mls has been totally faultless, and the paintwork is lasting far better than it did on my BMW.
At the same time 4 years ago a mate swapped his GS1150ADV for a Stelvio as well. His bike stands uncovered on the street 24/7 in Edinburgh, no paint peeling off the engine or fork legs like on his previous GS, now approaching 16000 miles and one minor problem with an injector. It starts every time and has never left him stuck at the roadside.
Similar story with a pal who changed his Triumph for a Stelvio NTX a couple of years back, now over 14,000 trouble free miles and the finish is holding up very well considering all year round use.
The Stelvios and other modern Moto Guzzis are no less reliable than BMWs or any other manufacturer. I find it quite refreshing to ride a marque that is a little more exclusive, that has oudles of character, something that modern BMWs lack. Although I will stick with my 1990 R100gs to keep in the GS camp.
 
Packer said:
This thread is full of polloks.

Whilst BMW's quality of finish seems to be on a downward spiral the competition is racing them towards the bottom of the barrel.

All you need is a dab of TLC and a current warranty and BMWs are great bikes.

You shouldn't drift, just trawl around the shops, make your choice, don't perch on the fence, angle after a good deal and enjoy your new bike.

My tuppence is that proper adventure bikes should be relatively light and that puts BMW and KTM in the frame with all the others as "also rans".
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You're just out whiting everyone here :)
 
oldnfat said:
This thread is in the wrong plaice...should be in the pub section.
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Sure you don't want to mullet over? But if it was moved I suppose it would give others the op-perch-tuna- ty to participate.

Maybe have a nice cup of char while you think about it. Me? I'm of to the the pub to get battered.

Anyone else got any ideas to weaver some more fishy puns in here?

:aidan
 
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