So my new gs is dangerous

Mattgs

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Has anybody else had a problem with the sharp screw in the panniers?

It has damaged my brand new arai tour x4 with a deep gouge

BMW have told me they are all the same. They basically said this is how it is nothing we can do really. My reply was that's like having a nail sticking through your seat and saying dont sit on that could be dangerous but that's how it is.

Please comment if you have had trouble as I'm going to pursue this further and other cases would be nice.

Thanks

Matt


Here's the screw

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Don't worry about it. Once you've dropped your new bike a few times you won't care about your new lid. ;)
 
Firstly, it is a bolt and not a screw. :P

I guess the plan was to make it less "dangerous" by rounding it off, except it is now a bit pointy.

The sensible option, as suggested, is to file/grind it down.

As to "not fit for purpose", how does that work?
It is a bolt with a nut threaded on to it, to hold a bit of plastic in place used to open/cover the vent.
It seems to do exactly what it was intended to do.

As an aside, the vent was added on later models due to customer feed back that condensation was forming in sealed boxes.
 
I've no problem sorting it out by replacing it, grinding it etc.

I won't be dropping it so I care about my helmet

And it seems most people are happy with faults, strange to me. If something's wrong then its wrong.

would you be happy if your new carpet was fitted with wrong gripper rods and they was sticking through? Carpet man says " hammer them flat and get over it" no its wrong. Common sense and quality it lacking in this country. Might go purchase a multistrada to cheer me up
 
Your best bet is contact customer services at BMW and see what they can do. You never know, they may be able to do something.

Saying that your GS is dangerous though is slightly over egging the pudding don't you think?
 
rights

Sale of Goods Act

When you buy goods (including goods supplied as part of a service), the law gives you certain rights as a consumer. A minimum set of common consumer rights on faulty goods is provided for under the Sale of Consumer Goods legislation.

Existing UK law has been retained but slightly amended, mainly to give effect to specific remedies which, although they have been in use for many years, have not previously been part of the law. These amendments are contained in the Sale of Goods to Consumers Regulations 2002 which came into force from 31 March 2003. These Regulations amended the Sale of Goods Act 1979, which implies certain terms into a contract when you purchase goods, and the Supply of Goods and Services Act 1982, which implies exactly the same implied terms, when you purchase goods as part of a service; for example, the supply and fitting of a new kitchen.

"Consumers" are defined as people who are buying for purposes not related to their trade, business or profession.

When goods are faulty, a consumer can generally obtain a legal remedy against the retailer. Consumers are generally not able to claim directly against the manufacturer. You may have additional rights under guarantees supplied with the goods or against a credit card company or finance house if the goods are purchased by means of credit and have a price of over £100, under S.75 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974.

The law says that the goods must:
•Be of satisfactory quality
•Be fit for the purpose
•Match their description
•The seller must have legal title to the goods i.e. own them, so that "ownership" can be passed on to the new owner

There are a number of things a trader is not allowed to do when they sell you goods. Under the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2007, which came into force on the 6th April 2008, a trader may have committed a criminal offence if they have done any of the following things

These include:
•Make a written statement that you have no legal rights when you buy goods
•Make a false description about goods
•Make a misleading action or omission
•Sell dangerous or unsafe goods
•Try to charge for goods sent that you didn't order
•Sell short measure or short weight
•Give a misleading price, either in writing or verbally

If you buy goods from a trader and they are not of satisfactory quality, fit for purpose or don't match their description, it is the trader who is responsible for putting things right, not the manufacturer. If a trader tells you the manufacturer is responsible, or that you have to make a claim on a manufacturers' guarantee, you do not have to accept this.

However if you were offered a guarantee (e.g. by a manufacturer or retailer) on a voluntary basis, then under the Sale of Goods to Consumers Regulations 2002, those given free of charge with the product:
•Will be legally binding on the person offering the guarantee;
•Will have to be written in English and in plain intelligible words;
•Must be available for viewing by consumers before purchase, e.g. by advising where they may be seen such as on the internet for those with access; and
•State that they do not affect the consumer's legal rights

If a manufacturer reneged on a free guarantee then the consumer could enforce it in a small claims court. The retailer would not be involved.

Depending on the circumstances, your remedies under the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as ammended) are as follows:
•To get all of your money back
•To get some of your money back
•To get the goods repaired
•To get the goods replaced
•To get a partial or full refund
•To get compensation for any additional losses incurred

You will not have these rights if:
•There is nothing wrong with the goods - you have just changed your mind about wanting them
•You examined the goods, or a sample of the goods, when you were buying them, and the fault you want to complain about was so obvious that you should have noticed it
•The trader pointed out the defect that you now want to complain about
•You have damaged the goods yourself
•The problem is the result of normal wear and tear
•The goods have lasted for as long as could reasonably be expected
 
Your best bet is contact customer services at BMW and see what they can do. You never know, they may be able to do something.

Saying that your GS is dangerous though is slightly over egging the pudding don't you think?

That's what I've done.

Got you to read it though :bounce1
 
I won't be dropping it so I care about my helmet

I'll bet that you do. Everyone drops these bikes somewhere sometime and once in a while you'll actually be on board.

I look forward to hearing what BMW has to say when you tell them how you managed to wedge your massive XXXXXXL crash helmet into that box. :thumb2
 
am sure we would all be happy to damage kit if we had more money than sence............lol............:rolleyes:

Not trying to be funny here, but that screw is pretty obvious, open the top box and it's there looking back at you from the vent.

surely you would spot it and go "hmmmm, looks pointy, that might scratch something", it hardly makes the top box unfit for purpose.
 
He who never tries never succeeds


Always think positive

Everything is possible

Don't be so negative

Just some of the things that get me through the working week

I WILL NOT DROP MY BIKE
 


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