Southern Germany, where you do park safely?

You have all the correct words but not in the order they were originally written.
 
Doh, I obviously wrote the title too quickly, but the detailed question is in the post, which I think is pretty clear.
 
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Doh, I obviously wrote the title too quickly, but the detailed question is in the post, which I think is pretty clear.
I know. It was quite funny that nobody noticed though, just read what they wanted to see.
 
Doh, I obviously wrote the title too quickly, but the detailed question is in the post, which I think is pretty clear.


I'm wondering what other people do in terms of parking safely.


Are garages vital or is the place pretty safe

The answer to what seems to be your two questions are all in the replies:

A. The area as a whole is considered reasonably safe. That doesn’t mean motorcycles are not stolen, but it’s safe enough.

B. Use your security. You’ve lugged it with you so you might as well use it. Don’t be tempted to arrive and then say to yourself, I’ll check in, get changed, shower, wander to the bar and do it later.

C. Yes, a garage at a hotel is maybe nice, obviously. Just make sure you don’t get boxed in by other bikes, who might not be leaving quite as early as you and visa-versa. Yes, the details of the garages might be brief. What do you want, a written and signed affidavit as you wing your way around, all devil may care, booking on a whim? Are garages vital? No.

D. If you do garage your bike, still attend to point B. If you don’t intend to, leave the weight behind.

Do you have similar concerns between Rotterdam and the Black Forest on your way to the ‘unknown’ of southern Germany?

PS Do not neglect the pound of butter in your fridge.

Enjoy your holiday.

:beerjug:
 
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I know. It was quite funny that nobody noticed though, just read what they wanted to see.

maybe people noticed but then read the text in the post without feeling the need to resort to pedantry about the subject line's incoherence
 
maybe people noticed but then read the text in the post without feeling the need to resort to pedantry about the subject line's incoherence
It may be pedantic to you but reading correctly the post was asking a question that those who cannot read weren’t answering. You in fact were answering a question you wanted to answer. It is a regular thing on here. People answering questions that were in fact never asked. This time it was, as has been admitted to, written with the words asking a different question than was intended.

We as a group are looking at southern Germany next year as a trip and a poster stating how safe it is for parking was actually pretty reassuring.
 
The answer to what seems to be your two questions are all in the replies:

Do you have similar concerns between Rotterdam and the Black Forest on your way to the ‘unknown’ of southern Germany?

Enjoy your holiday.

:beerjug:
I agree, some helpful replies and encouraging.

I suppose I am thinking about the whole trip, but anticipate blasting down with just one overnight in the middle each way (I suspect somewhere around Saarland) so will take heed. Thankfully it looks like little rural hotels are plentiful.

Thanks
 
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Motorcycle theft in Bavaria is generally lower compared to northern and eastern German states, but it remains a risk, particularly in urban areas like Munich. While Bavaria is known for high social trust, which can deter opportunistic crime, specialized, high-end motorcycles are often targeted by organized rings.


Key Aspects of Motorcycle Theft in Bavaria
  • Regional Comparison: Bavaria has one of the lowest bicycle/motorcycle theft rates in Germany, with around 208 thefts per 100,000 inhabitants as of 2019, significantly lower than cities like Bremen (926) or Berlin (788).
  • Hotspots and Trends: Despite lower overall rates, cities like Munich experience thefts, such as in the Riem district, where thieves have been known to target specific areas and even dismantle bikes for parts.
  • Recovery Rates: Police investigations can be challenging. While specialized investigations sometimes lead to recoveries—such as in Munich-Riem where a,gps tracker helped uncover a stash of stolen bikes—many stolen vehicles are rarely recovered, with only about 10% of bike thefts resolved in some German reports.
  • Targeted Theft: Organized gangs often target specific, high-value motorcycles or popular commuter bikes to be sold in Eastern Europe, often passing through the Autobahn network quickly.
  • Prevention: The Bavarian police often advise using high-quality, hardened steel locks and locking the rear wheel to prevent quick, opportunistic, or "joyride" thefts.
Prevention Tips
  • GPS Trackers: Using a GPS tracker can significantly increase the chances of locating a stolen bike, often leading to successful recovery by police.
  • Secure Parking: Avoid leaving motorcycles outside overnight, especially in high-risk areas. Utilizing a secured garage or a well-lit area is strongly recommended.
  • Disc Locks: Using a brake disc lock with an alarm is an effective deterrent against the theft of expensive models
 
When I go to Germany I like to Park in Flensburg.... or Husum, Friedrichstadt, Laboe, Ploen or even Kappeln

well safe, no bother, never has been...

bit of a commute to the south, then again the south is full of southern shandy drinking Koontz in my opinion why the hell would anyone got there... is beyond me...!
 
It may be pedantic to you but reading correctly the post was asking a question that those who cannot read weren’t answering. You in fact were answering a question you wanted to answer. It is a regular thing on here. People answering questions that were in fact never asked. This time it was, as has been admitted to, written with the words asking a different question than was intended.

We as a group are looking at southern Germany next year as a trip and a poster stating how safe it is for parking was actually pretty reassuring.

I still do not understand your beef. I read the whole post and felt I gave an answer which the OP acknowledged with a like. I felt I was communicating with the OP. You? Not so much.
 
Hotspots and Trends: Despite lower overall rates, cities like Munich experience thefts, such as in the Riem district, where thieves have been known to target specific areas and even dismantle bikes for parts.

any large city with good transport links and close to international borders is likely to be a target for thieves. Especially when there are no border checks ...
 
I still do not understand your beef. I read the whole post and felt I gave an answer which the OP acknowledged with a like. I felt I was communicating with the OP. You? Not so much.
The way I read it, which is exactly how it was written the post was stating how much safer motorcycle parking was in southern Germany. That is what the post was saying. Why you seem to think it said something else I’ve no idea.
The original post was pretty helpful for me as I’m currently arranging a bike trip to that area next year. The post subsequently got changed which made it less helpful as it now appears to be asking about safe parking. Why you seem to have a problem with that is again beyond me. The reason I wasn’t communicating with the OP was because his post originally seemed like a post advising that parking is indeed much safer in southern Germany. This didn’t need a reply.
 
So just to confirm……

My bike will still work

And…..

Take Sensible Precautions - Win Sensible Prizes.
 
On a side note, at a hotel in Wertheim, I had to park outside, but it was a gated car park and it rained in the evening, I forgot to put my cover over, but I came out the next morning and found this :) :) The Hotel night staff had a cover that someone had left behind, so put it over the Stelvio to keep it "dry".

I had to chuckle when I walked out in the morning, as the cover must have been for a scooter, but I wasn't complaining :)
So just to confirm……

My bike will still work

And…..

Take Sensible Precautions - Win Sensible Prizes.

Don't forget the butter in those sensible precautions, which luckily in Germany is still ............ Butter, so no linguistic contortionism for the OP to go through for that final piece of mind.
 



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