Spy Pic of new F800GS

[givitsum]

'Heads out'

C.mon guys---get your heads out of your a---s. That twin doesn't look too bad and I would expect it to be ten times better than a TDM when it eventually reaches the market place.

The 650 Dakar is getting a bit long in the tooth now and the 1200 is just too big for comfortable off-roading---if BMW do it right their 800 will be a big seller and by 'doin it right' I mean---at least 75bhp, lightish weight, reliability, good gearing, decent suspension and usefull tank range all priced around £6500-7000 fully loaded---as sumwun who had the first of the 1100 GS s in the country I know that looks can grow on you---she was an ugly duckling in the mid-nineties

givit

 

[BLUEJAY]

Allow me: ....I must say I am not too worried about design as I am regarding functionality

Here's my wish list for the not-yet-born 800GS, for what is worth...

- Dry weight kept within 170/180 Kgs.
- Good torque and at least 75/80 Horse power
- Low center of gravity (central fule tanK?)
- Good fuel economy (with the actual price of gas... )
- 21" front wheel at least as optional.
- Good wind protection
- Fuel Injection, but to avoid too much electronics and plasticky made
- All the usual BMW's optionals (heated grips, ABS.....bla bla bla)
- Last but not least, ....Affordable price (in line with the 800S for example)

Basically, an F650GS with better wind protection and more powerful engine

I am very happy with my 650, but I would be very tempted by a light 800, as I would not for the 1200.....too big and heavy for off-road capabilities as I dream.

I too believe that, if BMW does a good job, a 2 cylinder driven 800 should be a hit, especially considering that the Japs (Honda and Yamaha on the front line) have lately forgotten this segment.

Then KTM will follow

Cheers

 

[Invicta Moto]

Why slag something before it's built. IMHO 70-75 BHP in a bike weighing perhaps 170/180 Kg, hopefully slightly less complicated to maintain ' in the field ' represents a very viable alterntative for adventure touring. The advantages of the 650 re lightness but with the few extra BHP that I feel is necessary.

And the engine would be narrower than the big twins and more poke than the singles, less porky than my 1150.....

 

[Invicta Moto]

I would expect it to be ten times better than a TDM when it eventually reaches the market place
givit

Except the 800S model is aimed at the TDM market... As the TDM in both 850 and 900 mode is a road bike with no off road pretentions as it was born out of the "off road" Super Ten's loins...

However, as long as build quality is maintained then to try and bring it in fully specced it has to hover around £6995 to £7500 to sell it.

I might be interested myself in one, but not if the price starts to take it above Tiger prices.... I'll drop out!

 

[mr moto]

Updates Anyone?

Cheers

two new f800 models are supposed to be unveiled at this years intermot bike show in cologne germany in october. a naked roadster styled f800 and a gs styled enduro version, so keep hunting the web for the first spy shots, but remember the first of the f800 spy shots appeared over a year before we actualy saw the new bikes. i expect that the f800 gs will be available in late 2007.

 

[Invicta Moto]

this lot ahead of us....

this lot even have a forum already http://f800riders.org/f800gs.asp

 

[nick]

Its about time we had an 800 forum to collate the rumours and spy pics.

 

[Joyseeker]

Mmmmmmm.....................

What do you think?

Smaller 1200GS??



Ha.....Photoshop

motor cycle sport leisure mentioned this bike in reviewing the S and ST this month...... so i googled immediately and found the same pic...... looks like the went for a belt here a la uly..... i'd love them to try a small shaft like on the new honda deauville (£6.5k inc ABS)...... looks also good for a tank extension under the seat!

but then google also came up with another pic here

bum a chain. but looks like the F800 will come out for the dirty boys and one for those that always fell off the 12gs like me.

must check the f800 forum to see if it drinks oil like the 1200.

 

[Micky]

Well I've already got mi name on one

Ridden the F800S and it's ... bloody great.

I reckon it'll have (F800GS) chain drive (no probs 19,300 miles and 23 countries on one set of chain and sprockets with the 650)) and most importantly I guess it'll have the tubeless rims of the 1100's, 1150's, and 1200's

Will it have the single sided alloy swing arm, aka F800S or twin leg steel swing arm as per 650?

Aint bothered... I'm having one

 

[Fanum]

Its about time we had an 800 forum to collate the rumours and spy pics.

there haven't been any spy pics yet Nick.......just a couple of photoshopped mock-ups, one or two rumours and a few wish lists .

 

[Tasy's BIGJIM]

GS F 800? To own or not to own?

Can't help but Ponder? 1100 not enough Poke? 1150 More power? 1200 the Best? What are you guys thinking? Less cc Back to a 800? Not me. More models!!
BM if you read this Fix all the problems with the 1200 first! Don't you dare tell me they're ok. The 3 I have to wait for on Rides with my old 1100 all Broken. No.1. Diff bearing ceased while riding! 2.Frame breakage.3 PISTON BROKE at under 10,000 ks. My old girl been flogged every ride and on the Track. At 74,000ks the (one) Barrel leaks oil! ABS packed it in when a non BM Bike Shop did a service and used the wrong Brake Fluid. Thats all. Yes Taller screen. The older ones were Built as I exspect by A German Company. They were once the finest Motor Cycles in the world? Now to many models and to many problems. I have owned and ridden only BMw for the past 16 years. I am thinking as other Ex Bm Riders ( With Stuffed GS1200) selling and looking else where. Sales down here are falling. I have Orange on the mind. Sorry if you don't like it. But its the truth. BIGJim. Grab a Beer.

 

[givitsum]

'feelin better'

Must admit I'm feelin better after reading your post Tasy---seems like the old wuns are the best---probably goes for the riders too

I've just shipped a very low mileage '91 R100GS in from the states---very few miles on it---just run in really---I know the paralever of that vintage is supposedly suspect but nuthin that can't be fixed every forty thousand miles---should be a better bet than the latest unreliable BM's by the sound of things and in ten years time with my usual brand of TLC she should be wurth more than any 1200---

Must admit I did a lot of miles on a couple of 1100GS s I had in the nineties---got through a lot of oil but ultra reliable, ugly big heavy ol' muthers tho'---it seems to be the latest incarnation of the big boxer that let's the side down---been on American web-sites a lot in the past six months and the 1200 get's a caning there too where reliability is concerned.

givit

 

[AusSteve]

I saw the picture at the top of this thread when it first appeared on Raptors and Rockets (good site by the way if you like to hear the rumours early) and I recall it saying it's just a photoshop mock-up of what it could look like, but certainly not a spy pic.

Like others on this thread, I'm also looking forward to seeing the 800GS and hoping for a better compromise between weight and power - supermoto wheel option too please BMW.

If true, the rumoured new singles could be interesting too (see www.bmwra.org) and could make for a tough choice for my next bike.


Steve

Ps. Almost forgot to mention the new Cagiva 'Tamburini Supermoto' in this week's MCN, which will supposedly use the Rotax 800 engine as found in BMW's new 800S. I hope BMW is taking note - looks a good'n!

 

[tosh]

ugly looking bike

 

[Cole]

Why slag something before it's built. IMHO 70-75 BHP in a bike weighing perhaps 170/180 Kg, hopefully slightly less complicated to maintain ' in the field ' represents a very viable alterntative for adventure touring. The advantages of the 650 re lightness but with the few extra BHP that I feel is necessary.

Hmmmm, I dont see how it could be anywhere near that sort of weight. If you bear in mind the difference in weight between the engine and running gear of the 800 cc unit vs the 1200 cc set up ... the F800s is only 9 kgs lighter than the R1200s .... which would lead you to assume that if the dry weight of a R1200GS is 199kgs, a sensible estimate for the dry weight of a F800GS would be 190 kgs. Maybe you can shave another 5 kgs off if BMW really bust their nuts, but I would have thought 185 is going to be as good as it gets - if it even gets that good.