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Starter motor relay recall…
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The 1300 seems to have moved away a little from its roots, headed towards the centre ground and become more mainstream - maybe this is necessary because of the changing demographic of motorcyclists, time will tell - however my gut tells me that it will need to undergo a few significant changes in order to stay top-dog, I will wait and see what happens.A year or 2 , well good health to you .
Sit back and watch . Some of us decide to take a chance . Life is too short and you will become awkward and Arsey god help youI’m on my 7th now and enjoying every moment even with an affair with the Red side
The sales figures will make things clearer over the next year.
Judging by the ads I get bombarded with from local dealers every week, I don’t think they are a roaring success
They have 1300’s in stock, on the floor for immediate delivery & unsold
Never seen that before from a recently launched new model GS in last 20 years
Usually a waiting list
A lot of those models are stock , non spec bikes . Delivery for a configured bike is spring , plus many riders wait until the better weather , the launch date was odd in winter .
A lot of these comments seem familiar to when the first LC came out …
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All I can say is go try one for those who haven’t 
The MCIA figures will reveal all in the next 6 months or so as the weather improves.
Dealer rang me yesterday at almost 5pm to say they'd had a quick look and indeed the starter relay had shat itself, they've raised a case with BMW so need to wait for what they come back with.
To be fair to them they've been proper "on it", I didn't expect the bike to get looked at until today given they didn't pick it up from me until gone 3.
To be fair to them they've been proper "on it", I didn't expect the bike to get looked at until today given they didn't pick it up from me until gone 3.
Dealers are normally pretty good in reacting to serious issues.
Yeah, the bike almost setting itself ablaze definitely qualifies haha
Let's hope it hasn't had the recall done,if it has that's a big worry!
Hope it gets sorted quickly for you not a good new bike experience .
According to the dealer, on the system it shows it was checked by BMW UK and found to not need the modified relay.......
That raises more questions !. If BMW UK said it didn't need the modified relay because it had already been charged is there an issue with the replacements?.According to the dealer, on the system it shows it was checked by BMW UK and found to not need the modified relay.......
Or if it hadn't been changed why did BMW UK get it wrong and think it had been done?.
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Mine was checked by my local dealer in November and did have minor damage to the outer casing and so identified as requiring to be replaced, they ordered one in specific to the bike so I am told, they will fit it when the first service gets doneAccording to the dealer, on the system it shows it was checked by BMW UK and found to not need the modified relay.......
in between times said it would not give a problem and so far hasn’t 
Rule 1. Never be the Bavarian Beta tester. BMW are by far the worst when it comes to releasing half finished bikes.
The Japs get a lot of stick for being "Behind the market" or out of date etc. But they test the hell out of their bikes. Stuff like this is incredibly rare.
The Japs get a lot of stick for being "Behind the market" or out of date etc. But they test the hell out of their bikes. Stuff like this is incredibly rare.
Both Bike and Ride magazines have had to have test bikes recovered because they have stopped. I guess I would be more than a little pi$$ed off if I had just blown £20k+ on a bike that is clearly not fit for purpose and I don’t really care how good the legendary BMW break-down and customer service is, I would at least expect it not to break down!
Oh yes, and now BMW want to charge you for a centre stand too!
Oh yes, and now BMW want to charge you for a centre stand too!
Whenever I go to my dealers the youngest people there are always the staff as the customers are all the wrong side of 40. As time marches on more of those will like me become retired which if I'm anything like some sort of bell weather sales within their existing customer base are going to fall. I have no intention of paying over 20k for a bike, no natter how "good" it is, so maybe this shift is a calculated one hoping to attract more buyers away from other manufacturers knowing full well they may loose some of their existing GS customers (or like me move to a different cheaper bike within their range).
Hopefully the journalists test bikes were early models and the problem with the starter solenoid was rectified on all bikes off the production line after the beginning of November (think I've seen after 6th Nov ??).Both Bike and Ride magazines have had to have test bikes recovered because they have stopped. I guess I would be more than a little pi$$ed off if I had just blown £20k+ on a bike that is clearly not fit for purpose and I don’t really care how good the legendary BMW break-down and customer service is, I would at least expect it not to break down!
Oh yes, and now BMW want to charge you for a centre stand too!
Hope so anyway because mine was built the last week of Nov .
Centre stand is like a lot of the other parts (electric screen, adaptive cruise etc. etc. ) optional; & chargeable like everything else these days. Some people doing more off road may not want a centre stand.
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Mine has a production date of the 11th, which would make sense why I was told it was checked and didn't need the recall.
But it does raise the question, if my bike has the modified relay, how did it suffer water ingress and fail in the exact same way as the affected units, it was only ever washed once and failed.
Or, if it DID have the modified unit fitted at the factory, does this suggest the modified unit isn't as modified as it seems.....
I would like to think that was the story for BMW, but if I were a manufacturer, (and of course I’m not), I would not like to give it to a journalist and have it break down when it is being showcased to the World in a magazine. You have to ask if this issue had shown up before being launched and why the pre-launch testing by BMW hadn’t shown it up.
Regarding the centre stand, BMW have always fitted them as standard, so is this a way to squeeze extra money from punters wallets? The other reason of course, is that BMW can say “we have reduced the weight of the bike”, but they haven’t, they have simply removed certain items and published the weight of the bog standard bike without any of the “must have” additional kit that almost everyone has from the accessory list. Once these are fitted, as almost every new owner will, then the weight goes back up to around the weight of the 1250. Cynical? Moi?
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