STOLEN GSA1250 PUTNEY HL19 CFP

[adventuredon]

I'd like every moped/bike/vehicle fitted with silent GPS transponder type thing at factory. Your location, route, signal permanently available but not monitored in any way. Only accessible (turned on) with reasonable grounds if requested electronically by requisite agency. If a crime occurs, turn on the transponder within x radius - or stop suspected shit stirrer on moped and download his last 10 miles/20 minutes etc of whereabouts. It would have to be religiously defended and controlled but if every bike had to have one, and police could easily send a ping to see if bike with x reg number had one still on board without accessing routes / radius first that might be nice idea..basically a tracker for everyone and work things in reverse...so if theft occurred in SW15, look for 3 dots moving in similar direction very close together and bingo...

 

[PhaedrusMC]

Bloody hell.Scumbags wouldn't you just love to give them a good hiding.

No. Hang them.

I hate this shit. What gives these twats the right to just take what isnt theirs. I hope they and their families end up with the current virus.

I'd rather see them hanged.

 

[Stevie4scoops]

Oh fuck me NO ! The poor little dahlings might get hurt when they go over the handlebars and land on their heads. The PC brigade would never allow that. Me ? Id favour a six inch spike that comes up through the seat when they are on the bike. That would discourage the bastards !!


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Totally agree with the spike. Turkish Revenge is a fantastic idea.

The other benefit is if they have a huge knife fired into their nuts, they will no longer be able to breed.

Only further idea would be that I'd like to electrify the knife so it melts their insides in addition to slicing them.

Utter cnuts..

 

[fred_jb]

If this country was properly organised to counter this sort of thing it would be totally impossible to make any money from these thefts. I'm thinking proper inspection of container loads of stuff going to places like Lithuania, and much better regulation of the market in secondhand parts at breakers and online, with much stiffer penalties for dodgy dealings. If they couldn't make any money from it the thefts would stop. I bet this doesn't happen to this extent in Germany, and their borders are a lot harder to police than ours. Better ID marking and traceability of parts by bike manufacturers would help too.

 

[spoonz]

A major part of the problem is the extortionate spares prices charged by manufacturers. If the prices were a reflection of their true manufacture cost and a bit of profit instead of 200% plus in some cases then there would be no market for used parts. No one nicks a 5 year old Ford Focus for parts because there are a million pattern parts dirt cheap at every motor factors, The manufacturers won’t take it seriously until premiums get loaded on “ targeted” bikes to a point it hurts their sales. As it is there is little downside to your bike getting nicked for them

 

[theop]

A major part of the problem is the extortionate spares prices charged by manufacturers. If the prices were a reflection of their true manufacture cost and a bit of profit instead of 200% plus in some cases then there would be no market for used parts. No one nicks a 5 year old Ford Focus for parts because there are a million pattern parts dirt cheap at every motor factors, The manufacturers won’t take it seriously until premiums get loaded on “ targeted” bikes to a point it hurts their sales. As it is there is little downside to your bike getting nicked for them

Premiums are already loaded on targeted bikes. Have you checked cover for a new 22k GSA 1250, for commuting and with west London postcode? Its between 5-20% of the bike. Every year. So 1 in 10 is roughly expected to be stolen on any year, which over a 3 year pcp cycle is a 30% of losing it... problem with central London premiums for GSAs and other premium motorbikes is not the amount, but how many people are still paying it. Thus Thug knows its insured (and likely a pcp bike), Thug knows owner is minted and will likely be on the next one in a week or two, insurers get screwed, premia get higher and the cycle continues.

Of all great ideas above, I like the centre stand lock by Cymark quite a lot actually. The other thing nobody mentioned would be a to have cities (London ffs is still lagging)put anchors in every bay or bike park everywhere. And finally, to alter the law so that police or even owners are able to defend the loss of a property without fear of Thug suing. i.e. once on the wrong side of the law you automatically lose a number of human rights and you may end up harmed or dead for example. Unfortunately the last one is nigh on impossible in these times we live.

 

[fred_jb]

And finally, to alter the law so that police or even owners are able to defend the loss of a property without fear of Thug suing. i.e. once on the wrong side of the law you automatically lose a number of human rights and you may end up harmed or dead for example. Unfortunately the last one is nigh on impossible in these times we live.

Only problem there is that no matter how obviously guilty the perpetrator is, he is still presumed innocent until found guilty in a court of law. You cannot therefore use your personal judgement that someone is on the wrong side of the law to justify inflicting harm, no matter how richly justified. Sadly!

 

[spoonz]

Premiums are already loaded on targeted bikes. Have you checked cover for a new 22k GSA 1250, for commuting and with west London postcode? Its between 5-20% of the bike. Every year. So 1 in 10 is roughly expected to be stolen on any year, which over a 3 year pcp cycle is a 30% of losing it... problem with central London premiums for GSAs and other premium motorbikes is not the amount, but how many people are still paying it. Thus Thug knows its insured (and likely a pcp bike), Thug knows owner is minted and will likely be on the next one in a week or two, insurers get screwed, premia get higher and the cycle continues

I think London is a problem in itself for bikes in general and nice cars. It has been that way for sometime. Going back 15/20 years I had friends there getting bike after bike stolen and problems with premiums. Given the amount of cctv etc it should be the hardest place to get away with a theft but alas not.

Insurance Premiums killed the hot hatch market in the 90’s and if the bike industry is not careful bikes could go the same way. We need a bike with a dna scanner. If it detects it’s being ridden by a third party it explodes a Small seat charge. Double win as they won’t steal anything else ever and tax payer doesn’t have to pay for the community service they won’t turn up for.

 

[Deleted account 251212001]

Surprised insurers aren’t mandating trackers in London and high risk areas. What is the percentage retrieve rate with one?

These scum are the lowest of the low, I had a nice audi taken whilst asleep in bed, I found it on eBay and the police arrested some guys trying to sell its drivers door the week after it was taken. Their home was a thieves treasure chest with a freshly stolen Audi A5 on the drive too. 18 month later the case was in court, two got off as one said he would plead guilty, and all he got was a suspended sentence. So it’s not worth the effort for the police.

 

[BDG]

Surprised insurers aren’t mandating trackers in London and high risk areas. What is the percentage retrieve rate with one?

These scum are the lowest of the low, I had a nice audi taken whilst asleep in bed, I found it on eBay and the police arrested some guys trying to sell its drivers door the week after it was taken. Their home was a thieves treasure chest with a freshly stolen Audi A5 on the drive too. 18 month later the case was in court, two got off as one said he would plead guilty, and all he got was a suspended sentence. So it’s not worth the effort for the police.

That’s so infuriating, the courts are just too lenient

 

[Santa-2512]

That’s so infuriating, the courts are just too lenient

Tell me about it,

When my bike got stolen, they caught the fucker, after he did a run for it

Sorry i should say the dog caught the fucker,

I was unfortunatly stopped from twatting the c*nt with my AGV , on the grounds of, Yes I & several of the assembled persons there would feel a great deal of satisfaction.

However they would have to arrest me also, and as the c*nt was technically in custody, it wouldnt look good all round.

I had to be thankfull Rover, had given him an indelible reminder of what being a caught c*nt was

However the bloody Mags rolled over when he turned up in court, span a sob story and got a suspened sentence.

So that was two of us who were out of pocket to our local twocer.

I hope he suffered ill health for the rest of his days

 

[Stevie4scoops]

That’s so infuriating, the courts are just too lenient

Judges are not fit for purpose because they live in comfortable bubbles sheltered from the real world. I'd jail the scumcuts and contract out their sentences to countries which punish prisoners property. They wouldn't want to be re-sentanced after thus crime would reduce.

For far too many in society, there simply isn't any fear of the law or deterrent so they simply continue.

I recall mobile phone theft not being taken seriously until a judge's daughter was mugged for hers. Suddenly, mobile phone theft was a mandatory prison sentence.

 

[oblertone]

I recall mobile phone theft not being taken seriously until a judge's daughter was mugged for hers. Suddenly, mobile phone theft was a mandatory prison sentence.

Hmmm, must have missed that update

 

[garypotter]

All this talk of trackers, it does not stop the bike from being stolen... and would you want your brand new £20k bike back after a scrote has had it for 2 weeks? generally there is damage so a claim on the insurance and affecting the ncb and loss of excess. still the bike owner is out of pocket. Yes when the thieves are caught there is no punishment.

I am aware a lot of insurers do not cover London at all now straight decline.

Sorry to the OP for the loss and hope he gets something that keeps him smiling.

 

[Mr Bean]

All this talk of trackers, it does not stop the bike from being stolen... and would you want your brand new £20k bike back after a scrote has had it for 2 weeks? generally there is damage so a claim on the insurance and affecting the ncb and loss of excess

As I've said before, the increase on your policy may make you feel otherwise when you consider the hit is for five years - particularly if you don't have a garage.

 

[iludovico]

My BMW GSA1250 (HL19 CFP) was stolen from Bendemeer Road in Putney at 16.40 yesterday. Two shits parked up next to my bike, removed the lock within seconds with a grinder, straightened the handle bars, which snapped the steering lock. One of them got on to my bike and the other pushed him down the road, as they could not get my bike started They then made off down Bendemeer Road, at the end of Bendemeer Road they stopped and decided to silence the alarm with a hammer, two brave witnesses had chased them down the road taking pictures on their mobile phones and it was at this point that the two witnesses were threatened with the hammer so decided to back off.

They then turned onto Putney Embankment, at this point it is presumed the bike was put into a van as when the witnesses gained the courage to follow them on to the Embankment they had disappeared.
Two people called 999 but they didn’t attend the scene, all I have to show for my lovely bike is a crime reference number.
The bike was locked, alarmed, padlocked and Datataged but it was removed in seconds

I have called the witnesses and thanked them, one guy apologised and said he wished he could have done more.
One other witnesses said the alarm makes a bloody racket but they silenced it with one blow of the hammer.

John Gutted of Reigate

Dear JOhn I m truly sorry about what happened to you. Sadly I had mine (EY19HVP same as yours) stolen in SW11 at 2.22am in my courtyard. The scums forced the gate broke the chain and manage to to do some magic so that the bloody tracker did not set off. Likely they manage to switch on the electronics (keyless system is known to be the least safe). The tracker showed its useless purpose, especially the Trakking that is connected to the ignition.
The second hit was for me the insurance that settle 60% because I did not declare a SP50 (motorway speed limit while I was rushing to my hospital for an emergency). I have file a complaint and I will escalate this to the financial ombudsman.
This is my second GS stolen. First was in 2014 in royal free hospital at 4pm. I then had other failed 2 attempts again with GS.
London is a disgrace from this point of view. But I absolutely feel your pain. I was speechless and hopeless. Of course was never recovered. And I truly need my beaut =y as I am rushing from one hospital to another because of this bloody crisis ( I am a Consultant THoracic Surgeon)

 

[Stevie4scoops]

Hmmm, must have missed that update

It was many years ago

 

[malcopopolo]

Dear JOhn I m truly sorry about what happened to you. Sadly I had mine (EY19HVP same as yours) stolen in SW11 at 2.22am in my courtyard. The scums forced the gate broke the chain and manage to to do some magic so that the bloody tracker did not set off. Likely they manage to switch on the electronics (keyless system is known to be the least safe). The tracker showed its useless purpose, especially the Trakking that is connected to the ignition.
The second hit was for me the insurance that settle 60% because I did not declare a SP50 (motorway speed limit while I was rushing to my hospital for an emergency). I have file a complaint and I will escalate this to the financial ombudsman.
This is my second GS stolen. First was in 2014 in royal free hospital at 4pm. I then had other failed 2 attempts again with GS.
London is a disgrace from this point of view. But I absolutely feel your pain. I was speechless and hopeless. Of course was never recovered. And I truly need my beaut =y as I am rushing from one hospital to another because of this bloody crisis ( I am a Consultant THoracic Surgeon)

I hope you get a better offer form the insurance. An SP50 has no effect on a theft claim. Bike is stationary. Would there have been an increase in insurance premium if you had declared the SP50? possibly not as most are not affected until 6 points on licence. How did they know about SP50 did they check with DVLA?

 

[iludovico]

I hope you get a better offer form the insurance. An SP50 has no effect on a theft claim. Bike is stationary. Would there have been an increase in insurance premium if you had declared the SP50? possibly not as most are not affected until 6 points on licence. How did they know about SP50 did they check with DVLA?

As part of the paperwork I had to submit the status of my driving licence.
I will file a complaint with the F.Ombudsman but I am not too ptimistic. Any thoughts?

THanks

 

[hops]

As someone who has a slight bit of inside knowledge with insurance companies they will not generally check your licence status until a claim is made but they will then try & reduce any liability they may have. If you have knowingly withheld relevant information at inception they may use this to reduce or refuse any personal claim but would still cover any 3rd party. This could include points, previous claims, the fact the bike is kept on the street when you said it was garaged etc etc