Superbike Factory

As someone that worked in the motorcycle trade that one always makes me laugh.

Why didn’t we want high mileage stuff??
Because the customers didn’t want to buy it.

I remember being told that we were ripping people off selling scrap because of a Honda VFR750 we had for sale was at the end of its life…despite it being in outstanding condition.
The customer’s reasoning? 25,000 miles!

currently looking at z650rs and theres 2 local ones and one in hull (100 miles)

the most local one has 13k and fiver off 5 grand the other one is 50 over 5k and 9000 miles the hull one is the same but 1800 miles

normally wouldnt care about leggy stuff if relatively new but the hull one would be worth a look as i dont think the 13k one is cheap enuff and the independent selling it is unlikely to chip much off cos leggy

why are prices all over the place - also bigmoto dudley have one but having ridden thru there dont wanna do that again :D
 
so you are referring to markup on sale vs purchase cost of product @30-40%
No, I'm talking about profit on turnover. If you take £100k in sales, 30-40k profit needs to be generated for small businesses selling anything that attracts VAT.
For online sales, you can return the product for any reason within the statutory 14 days for a full refund including carriage charges. Everything must be covered by a guarantee, the list goes on and on. You can return anything for any reason in my business within 30 days and everything has at least a 2-year warranty. This all costs money to implement. Plus, the VAT man wants his 20% off the top.
We own our warehouse and showroom, so there is no rent to pay. Rates 35k pa. Five employees at an average monthly cost of 3.5k pm per employee Inc pension and employers NI. Shipping costs £5k pm, it goes on and on.
10% on turnover would be the death of most SMEs and there are plenty going under ATM.
 
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currently looking at z650rs and theres 2 local ones and one in hull (100 miles)

the most local one has 13k and fiver off 5 grand the other one is 50 over 5k and 9000 miles the hull one is the same but 1800 miles

normally wouldnt care about leggy stuff if relatively new but the hull one would be worth a look as i dont think the 13k one is cheap enuff and the independent selling it is unlikely to chip much off cos leggy

why are prices all over the place - also bigmoto dudley have one but having ridden thru there dont wanna do that again :D
Is 13k leggy??
In context to other bikes a similar price point wit less miles…probably.
Most of us will buy the lower mileage bike so that is why dealers want the lower mileage stuff…it sells quicker.

And surprise surprise, dealers are in business to make money, not fill their premises with undesirable stock…see reports on Superbike Factory’s stock condition.
 
Leggy bikes?....interesting, read and video, and all comments on this thread.
I am on the look out for another bike, not so much a project this time but a change of say type.

Currently am using an old, 2008 GSA at the moment, but still like to have that available change of bike at the opening of a garage door. (Eenie, Meenie, Minnie, Mo, kinda thing)

Looking at a Honda Vfr1200F with 35k miles on it, bike looks well presented, with full luggage to go with it, seller is mentioning giving up due to health issues, and just wants it sold, £1900.00 which seems a good buy for a sports bike/tourer with 173 bhp on tap.

It's not far away from me which is a bonus, time to have a look see. Perhaps a dealer missed out, on this one, due too leggy miles.....:D
 
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Always cracks me up when I hear people talking nervously about miles covered. Modern machines are engineered to such fine tolerances and materials and lubrication is so good that stuff lasts way longer than anyone realises, so long as it’s properly cared for with cleaning and routine servicing.

My old 2008GSA was sold at just over 50k but I had maintained it regardless of cost and it could easily have done another 50k. My current 1250GSA is on about 24k and my Tmax is fast approaching 60k, my VW transporter is at 125k and the wife’s Peugeot 3008 is approaching 100k.

I have zero desire to spend good money on replacing any of them with newer stuff of lower mileage. No doubt the long term answer to that is for some politician to legislate them all into the scrapyard and thus force the consumer demand for newer stuff.
 
Tesco turned over £63.6 billion in 2025, excluding fuel sales, so their small margin is enough. Unless you are turning over huge amounts of money like Tesco, Amazon and the like, small margins won't keep you afloat.
Any big global business will be moving money around, offshoring profits etc and it is impossible to know what their true margin is.

I have worked for / in a number of large global companies, they all have a vast swathe of other companies in the group, many are from aquisitions and mergers, but they never close them down, it must cost money to keep them in use, and the finance systems have all sorts of funny cost codes to allocate purchases / expenses / sales to.

Also profit is worked out after all expenses, so if I ran a business and spent £100k in total on running the business and buying stock, had sales of £250k + VAT, leaving me £150k "profit", but paid myself £100k, gave HMRC their £15k employers NI, stuffed £35k into my company pension I would be running a company that makes zero profit.....

....I wonder how much the SBF directors were paying themselves, putting into pensions, spending on "expenses" for "entertaining", a lot of people have got very rich of going bust, and we see this pattern time and time again.

Motorcycle City, Carnell, George White, SBF, probably a load more I have forgotten about.

The question now is what happens to all of these SBF bikes, I would imagine there are a lot more used bikes in the market than there are buyers right now, with the economy turning to shit and people losing jobs / becoming poorer in real terms....

... I would not be at all surprised if Blade go the same way and we find out they have massive loans and debts, although perhaps having SBF taken out of the equation helps them.

I feel very sorry for all of the people who are now looking for a new job in the current environment.
 


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