Suspension....

Did you have them fitted or did you do it yourself?

I had them fitted at Calsport in Birmingham who are the Hyperpro dealers in my area.:thumb

If you know someone with a proper spring puller, they should be able to do it no problem.
 
Front

There are no conventional forks on this bike, the front is controlled with a suspension unit. The unit is a very poor quality unit. There are no damper controls that can be adjusted on it. the spring rate is approximately correct. it is not possible to improve on this unit, we can only offer a replacement unit.

If it is of poor quality, then surely it CAN be improved on??? If they (Maxton) can't improve on it, (only offer a replacement) then there's not much point buying a Maxton part....

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If it is of poor quality, then surely it CAN be improved on??? If they (Maxton) can't improve on it, (only offer a replacement) then there's not much point buying a Maxton part....

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i had to think about it, but i think they meant that the original unit cannot be improved by reworking.
 
To be honest I cann't understand how BM could get the quality of the suspension on my 1999 R1150GS so right and yet the 1200 is so wrong , the only way to explain it has to be cost cutting.

The MAXTON units look vastly superior quality and to be honest the standard units if I were to replace them like for like would be more expensive (which I wouldn't do as mine, although new are rubbish).

As I've said before I bought the bike to be a keeper (I had my 1150 for 9 years) . I didn't buy the ESA model for the same reason I didn't get ABS etc because in my opinion they are more electronics/gadgets to fail as the bike gets older and in the case of ESA the shocks are by all accounts no better quality.

The only reason I'm not getting totally peed off is the fact that I had budgetted to replace the shocks anyway using the money from the sale of my 1150. but I thought it would be a couple of years down the line
 
Rear fitted 40 minutes start to finish, the front can wait until I have a full morning, will try them out pm tomorrow but seems good so far
 
Fitted the front shock this morning , considering the dismantling needed ie tank cover,sidepanels, engine bars and engine front cover the 1 3/4 hours needed was reasonable.

Took the bike out for a ride and without altering any of the settings from them arriving my honest opinion is YIPPEE !!!!!!!!!!!!

The bike is totally transformed, at first I thought that it might be too hard as when I got on there was very little sag especially at the rear .

The front end of the bike is totally different it is no longer fidgetty on the road and feels much more stable and planted , you can feel the road surface and changes in it through the tyres and suspension yet there is no harshness on minor bumps and it handles any large ones with total composure.

At the rear the ride at rest feels quite firm but once under way it is superb, at high speed the suspension again follows the road and you can feel what the rear end is doing and any changes to the road surface. The damping is excellent and at no time does it feel unsettled. More importantly when you then slow down for towns etc the rear is no longer massively overdamped and handles minor bumps etc in total comfort..

It 's weird to describe but out of the box the bike feels plush and quite soft at lows speeds yet still handles and at higher speed it is still totally composes and feels well damped and compliant.

I found I was travelling a couple of my favourite roads making fairly rapid progress and at speeds at least 30% higher than those I would have been happy with had the old suspension been fitted (front shock £600 miles rear 250 miles) .

I have no doubt that at Continental speeds it will be just as good. The handling is now better than that of my old 1150 and better than any other 1200 either GS or GSA ( ESA or non ESA) that I have ridden .

I will try it two up at the weekend and then try it two up with loaded luggage but so far it looks very promisiing.
 
Yes it was , best bit is that they recommend 20,000 mile or 4 yearservicing rather than annual or bi-annual as some other manufacturers
 
Yes it was , best bit is that they recommend 20,000 mile or 4 yearservicing rather than annual or bi-annual as some other manufacturers
Do you have a link to what you bought? I'm confused by the site and what I 'may' need.
 
Yes it was , best bit is that they recommend 20,000 mile or 4 yearservicing rather than annual or bi-annual as some other manufacturers

That means and annual for me:blast They look good though and I'll have to consider a set as long as the price is sensible i.e not like the overpriced Ohlins:augie.

I was going to have my standard ones with Hyperpro springs refurbed but may now consider my options:thumb

Any chance you could give me an estimate of the price by pm?
 
That means and annual for me:blast They look good though and I'll have to consider a set as long as the price is sensible i.e not like the overpriced Ohlins:augie.

I was going to have my standard ones with Hyperpro springs refurbed but may now consider my options:thumb

Any chance you could give me an estimate of the price by pm?

Have you had a quote for the Hypero springs option?
 
Have you had a quote for the Hypero springs option?

The Hyperpro springs cost around £80 a go. I've had them on mine for 3 years and really rate them to be honest. However, my GSA has done nearly 70k and I'm doing a top to toe refurb so am thinking of treating her to complete units. I've got to do arond 25k next year on all sorts of stuff so I think it will be money well spent.

I've discounted Ohlins because they are just too damned expensive and not worth all that extra money IMHO. I like the Hyperpro stuff but I'm liking Maxton the more I look at it and hear great reports. I also think it's getting toward the right price bracket as well
 
I tried the bike out two up yesterday, decided not to touch any of the settings and see what it was like.

Two up handling was excellent and vastly better than it was on the standard shocks. My wife actually stated that she could feel a massive difference in the the ride quality of the bike.

You can feel the road surface through the tyres and know exactly what the suspension is doing yet it is still quite plush and very comfortable.

Also all of the choppiness on the front end had gone.

Only problem now is that the Tourance EXP's are going to limit the bike.
 
From an Ohlins virgin

Had my first ride on an Ohlins suspended bike today. An Aprilia Mille RSV Factory - my new toy. What a revelation the suspension is compared to my standard GS12. First stint was in pixxing rain till eventually the rain stopped, but roads were wet then the road dried out. A mix of smooth A roads. Very bumpy A roads. Smooth dual carriageway. I am totally converted to "proper" suspension set up. The Aprilia has not been adjusted in any way. I just got on and rode home in the rain. But the improvement in ride comfort was mind boggling.

So - I just HAVE to get the GS suspension set up to give a smooth ride instead of ranging from marshmallow wallowing to rock hard when front & rear are screwed up hard for track.

Will investigate the Maxton option.
 
I have the highest spec Wilburs, £1200 fitted, and setup for my use.

My spring is a shade stiffer than stock (150nm vs 140nm) as I do a lot of two-up, the unit has remote pre-load and allows me to run anything from 30mm static sag down to zero sag, solo I run about 25mm sag, two-up fully loaded I take this almost down to nothing - far more adjustment than the stock unit.

With the sag removed and the stronger spring (not to mention better damping) the bike is awesome, just returned from 3,000+ mile trip to the Alps, riding as hard as I can two-up with luggage the bike was faultless (stock unit wallowed a bit two-up without luggage) providing both better comfort and superior handling to the OE kit (As it should for 1200 notes)

I generally like a sporty setup, but just a couple of quick clicks really make a difference so when I had long sections of rougher roads I would just back it off a shade and it became a magic carpet.

The bike also turns far better with less sag and more compression damping than the stock unit offers. Throw in some road rubber and it is top fun on twisty roads.

Go and get it sorted :thumb
 


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