Have in my mind the idea of a trip across to Norway/Sweden next year. But I've got to pursuade the other half. I live darn sarf so any suggestions on the best way to get there, places to go, times to visit etc.
Sweden/Norway
- Thread starter Timbo
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Norway? Yes!!
Hello Timbo!
Tell your wife:
The Norwegian BMW-club (BMW Klubben Norge http://bmw.mc.no/ ) organize a BMW-meeting in different places in Norway the first weekend of August each year.
Next time:
31/07 - 03/08 2003 a place near Lillehammer/Mjøsa: Hunderfossen Turistsenter, phone 61274000, fax 61277212, [email protected] .
You can bring your tent, rent a hut/cabin, apartment, a room at the hotell.
Any Norwegian-question: May-be I can help! I live close to Oslo.
Liv, Norway.
Hello Timbo!
Tell your wife:
The Norwegian BMW-club (BMW Klubben Norge http://bmw.mc.no/ ) organize a BMW-meeting in different places in Norway the first weekend of August each year.
Next time:
31/07 - 03/08 2003 a place near Lillehammer/Mjøsa: Hunderfossen Turistsenter, phone 61274000, fax 61277212, [email protected] .
You can bring your tent, rent a hut/cabin, apartment, a room at the hotell.
Any Norwegian-question: May-be I can help! I live close to Oslo.
Liv, Norway.
Sweden? Roadracing/speedway/cross!
Hello Timbo, it's me again!
Sweden?
Normally at the same time as the Norwegian BMW-meeting, there's a TT-race in Sweden, first weekend in August.
At the Linkøpings Motorstadion Sviestad, east of the lake Vattern, there is a ''meeting'', competitions, old bikes, roadracing, speedway, cross and more!
You pay one ticket for the area, and you can look at it all!
And you can walk around in the depot (the drivers live in tents with the bikes in the depot) and look at the drivers trying to improve the old bikes. Interresting! My favorite is the sidecars!
Try this: http://www.mchk-racing.org/Bilder.htm
Timbo's wife:
You don't have to be a motor cycle-freak to like this!
Regards Liv, Norway.
Hello Timbo, it's me again!
Sweden?
Normally at the same time as the Norwegian BMW-meeting, there's a TT-race in Sweden, first weekend in August.
At the Linkøpings Motorstadion Sviestad, east of the lake Vattern, there is a ''meeting'', competitions, old bikes, roadracing, speedway, cross and more!
You pay one ticket for the area, and you can look at it all!
And you can walk around in the depot (the drivers live in tents with the bikes in the depot) and look at the drivers trying to improve the old bikes. Interresting! My favorite is the sidecars!
Try this: http://www.mchk-racing.org/Bilder.htm
Timbo's wife:You don't have to be a motor cycle-freak to like this!
Regards Liv, Norway.
Zwerver
Registered user
info...
Timbo,
if you look here you'll find some info on Norway...
The best way to hget to Norway/Sweden? That depends on how much money you want to spent on your trip....
Last year we took the ferry from Kiel to Oslo, a 19 hour cruise,
which arrives in Oslo at 9.00. It is not the cheapes way to go,
but a quite relaxed way of starting a holliday; for me it was a 6 hour drive to Kiel.
And from Oslo it is a 10 km drive to leave the town by highway and start some good touring in the inland!
Some alternatives are the (fast 3 hours or normal 6 hours) ferry from Hirtshals in the north of Denmark to Kristiansand in the south of Norway;
a very nice place to start a trip through Norway is going north from Kristainsand through the Setesdalen!
Other ways are the ferries Puttgarden-Rodby (1 hour) from Germany to Denmark + Helsingborg - Helsingor (15 minutes) from Denmark to Sweden, , or the toll-brigdes through Denmark to Sweden...
These last two alternatives are interesting if you dont mind making some extra miles, or when you are planning to go far to the north.
If you plan a holliday in Norway, staying south of Trondheim, the
ferries to Kristiansand or Oslo are the best to take because they bring you directly to your starting point for a great holliday; from
the Swedish coast, which can be quite busy in summertime it is still a 500 km drive to Norway...
But if you plan to go further north, starting in Sweden is the best way...
If it is your first trip to Scandinavia, I would recommend going to Norway and staying south of Trondheim; in a roundtrip of 2000
km, in 2 to 3 weeks, you can see most of the must-sees of Norway; the Preikestolen, Hardangervida, the Naroyflord, Sognefjord, Geirangerfjord, Trollstigen, the bird-island Runde, some great gravelroads like the Gammle Strynveijen, the glaciers Briksdalsbreen and Kjendalsbreen, the mountainroad through the Jotunheimen, the Flambanen, ect...
If you get addicted to Norway in that holliday, then go back to explore the north in the years to come!
If you want more info for a detailed route+campingplaces, mail!
Timbo,
if you look here you'll find some info on Norway...
The best way to hget to Norway/Sweden? That depends on how much money you want to spent on your trip....
Last year we took the ferry from Kiel to Oslo, a 19 hour cruise,
which arrives in Oslo at 9.00. It is not the cheapes way to go,
but a quite relaxed way of starting a holliday; for me it was a 6 hour drive to Kiel.
And from Oslo it is a 10 km drive to leave the town by highway and start some good touring in the inland!
Some alternatives are the (fast 3 hours or normal 6 hours) ferry from Hirtshals in the north of Denmark to Kristiansand in the south of Norway;
a very nice place to start a trip through Norway is going north from Kristainsand through the Setesdalen!
Other ways are the ferries Puttgarden-Rodby (1 hour) from Germany to Denmark + Helsingborg - Helsingor (15 minutes) from Denmark to Sweden, , or the toll-brigdes through Denmark to Sweden...
These last two alternatives are interesting if you dont mind making some extra miles, or when you are planning to go far to the north.
If you plan a holliday in Norway, staying south of Trondheim, the
ferries to Kristiansand or Oslo are the best to take because they bring you directly to your starting point for a great holliday; from
the Swedish coast, which can be quite busy in summertime it is still a 500 km drive to Norway...
But if you plan to go further north, starting in Sweden is the best way...
If it is your first trip to Scandinavia, I would recommend going to Norway and staying south of Trondheim; in a roundtrip of 2000
km, in 2 to 3 weeks, you can see most of the must-sees of Norway; the Preikestolen, Hardangervida, the Naroyflord, Sognefjord, Geirangerfjord, Trollstigen, the bird-island Runde, some great gravelroads like the Gammle Strynveijen, the glaciers Briksdalsbreen and Kjendalsbreen, the mountainroad through the Jotunheimen, the Flambanen, ect...
If you get addicted to Norway in that holliday, then go back to explore the north in the years to come!
If you want more info for a detailed route+campingplaces, mail!
Norway/Sweden.
Zwerver is the Norway-expert!
...but perhaps I can give some info; museums with cars & bikes:
http://www.fia.com/tourisme/museums/
...and a little translation:
Hug = klem
Gravel = grus
Left = venstre
Right = høyre
Steep = bratt
Precipitous = stupbratt
From = fra
Big = stor
Glacier = isbre
Dinner = middag
Shower = regnbyge (rain)
Shower = dusj (washing the body)
Put up a tent = slå opp et telt
Sleeping-bag = sovepose
Ticket = billett
Strawberry = jordbær
Glove = hanske
Engine oil = motorolje
Binocular = kikkert
Have a look at = ta en kikk på
Peep = kikke
Right-hand traffic = høyrekjøring
Seven o'clock/seven a m = klokka sju
Half past four = halv fem
Four = fire
Five = fem
She was only sixteen = hun var bare seksten
Te be or not to be; that's the question = å være eller ikke være; det er spørsmålet
Four-stroke engine = firetaktsmotor
Luggage = bagasje
Brake pad = bremsekloss
Thank you = takk
Thank you very much = tusen takk
Thousand = tusen
Oak (the tree) = eik
Spoke (on a wheel) = eike
Tarmac = asfalt.
Helmet = hjelm.
Food = mat
Nonsens = tull
(gape / yawn) I'm tired = (gjesp) jeg er trøtt. God night, sleep well = god natt, sov godt = nattaa!
So I say ''nattaa!''
Liv, Norway.
Zwerver is the Norway-expert!
...but perhaps I can give some info; museums with cars & bikes:
http://www.fia.com/tourisme/museums/
...and a little translation:
Hug = klem
Gravel = grus
Left = venstre
Right = høyre
Steep = bratt
Precipitous = stupbratt
From = fra
Big = stor
Glacier = isbre
Dinner = middag
Shower = regnbyge (rain)
Shower = dusj (washing the body)
Put up a tent = slå opp et telt
Sleeping-bag = sovepose
Ticket = billett
Strawberry = jordbær
Glove = hanske
Engine oil = motorolje
Binocular = kikkert
Have a look at = ta en kikk på
Peep = kikke
Right-hand traffic = høyrekjøring
Seven o'clock/seven a m = klokka sju
Half past four = halv fem
Four = fire
Five = fem
She was only sixteen = hun var bare seksten
Te be or not to be; that's the question = å være eller ikke være; det er spørsmålet
Four-stroke engine = firetaktsmotor
Luggage = bagasje
Brake pad = bremsekloss
Thank you = takk
Thank you very much = tusen takk
Thousand = tusen
Oak (the tree) = eik
Spoke (on a wheel) = eike
Tarmac = asfalt.
Helmet = hjelm.
Food = mat
Nonsens = tull
(gape / yawn) I'm tired = (gjesp) jeg er trøtt. God night, sleep well = god natt, sov godt = nattaa!
So I say ''nattaa!''
Liv, Norway.
Dave Barrett
Registered user
Good point!
I wonder if all the Norwegian swear words end up as "*****" as well. If not, maybe we should all learn Norwegian?
I wonder if all the Norwegian swear words end up as "*****" as well. If not, maybe we should all learn Norwegian?
gianni
Guest
From the UK, you can take the ferry from WallsEnd (Newcastle) to Bergen. It also hops up the coast to other places. I think it leaves Thursday 3 p.m. and arrives Friday 10 a.m. (twas a few years ago). Bergen is genuinely the wettest town in Europe so take your waterproofs. Ride from there over the Hardangervida to Oslo - there was snow in September from the previous year but the views are spectacular, talk about top of the world. The weather seems to be still OK in September but take the thermals for when the sun goes behind the mountains - it gets cold quickly!
Hotels in Oslo are (relatively) cheap £85/night for luxury 4-star SAS hotel room next to Station. There is a fantastic curry house just round the corner too. The Winston Churchill on Stortingsgate is a good pub - but sit down before you order a beer££££££!
If you go to Oslo on liberation weekend (around May18th I think) most of the country turn up to drink and make merry, a fantastic day. Also visit the Thor Hyerdhal and arctic explorer museums. The military museum consists mainly of "we hate wars and generally don't indulge - except against the Swedes" stuff - but the resistence display is very interesting (Heroes of Telemark really happened!) and their feelings towards the British are clearly genuine and very well expressed.
The other route was mentioned by Swerver, across from Puttgarden to Rodby through Denmark. It is a cool way to go, just wait for those Baltic cross-winds. The Danes are world masters building bridges, one is about 14 miles long and curves up into the stratosphere (as does the toll, but hey). Inns in Denmark are called "Kro"s and are very comfortable. BTW whoever built Holland practised on Denmark first - adds new meaning to flat.
All Scandis are very friendly and speak perfect English - go and enjoy it.
Apologies for the missing horizontal :s
Hotels in Oslo are (relatively) cheap £85/night for luxury 4-star SAS hotel room next to Station. There is a fantastic curry house just round the corner too. The Winston Churchill on Stortingsgate is a good pub - but sit down before you order a beer££££££!
If you go to Oslo on liberation weekend (around May18th I think) most of the country turn up to drink and make merry, a fantastic day. Also visit the Thor Hyerdhal and arctic explorer museums. The military museum consists mainly of "we hate wars and generally don't indulge - except against the Swedes" stuff - but the resistence display is very interesting (Heroes of Telemark really happened!) and their feelings towards the British are clearly genuine and very well expressed.
The other route was mentioned by Swerver, across from Puttgarden to Rodby through Denmark. It is a cool way to go, just wait for those Baltic cross-winds. The Danes are world masters building bridges, one is about 14 miles long and curves up into the stratosphere (as does the toll, but hey). Inns in Denmark are called "Kro"s and are very comfortable. BTW whoever built Holland practised on Denmark first - adds new meaning to flat.
All Scandis are very friendly and speak perfect English - go and enjoy it.
Apologies for the missing horizontal :s
gazza
Registered user
Good
But wot about the sweary words
But wot about the sweary words
17/05! National day.
So, Gianni; the Norwegians speak English perfect. So it's only me who's scratching my head?
Well, anyway: On behalf of the Norwegians: Thank you!!
So you want to learn Norwegian swearwords?
My dictionarys are wery decent, but I'll look for some.
''FAEN''
Faen is the Devil;Old Nick.
Som bare faen = like hell.
Faenskap = devilment, devilry.
If someone steal my bike, I'll scream: FY FAEN!!
A stronger one is:
FAEN I HELVETE! (Hell = helvete.)
A nicer way to express my feelings is: FY SØREN!
''POKKER'' / ''POKKER'N'' / ''FY POKKER''
A bit nicer then ''faen''. = Damn! Oh bother, oh hang it.
''Hvem pokker?'' = who the deuce?
I don't care a damn = jeg gir pokker.
A wery nice one is ''FILLER'N'' , you can use it in front of kids!
...say's my dictionary...
This is from my head: (No, it's not empty!) ''Det driter jeg i'' = I don't give a shit.
Satisfied?
Hello Santa (=julenissen):
Please forgive me, I only did what the big boys asked me to do!:farxmas: :farxmas:
I'm going to wash my mouth, promise!!
Klem fra Liv, Norway.
So, Gianni; the Norwegians speak English perfect. So it's only me who's scratching my head?
Well, anyway: On behalf of the Norwegians: Thank you!!
So you want to learn Norwegian swearwords?
My dictionarys are wery decent, but I'll look for some.
''FAEN''
Faen is the Devil;Old Nick.
Som bare faen = like hell.
Faenskap = devilment, devilry.
If someone steal my bike, I'll scream: FY FAEN!!
A stronger one is:
FAEN I HELVETE! (Hell = helvete.)
A nicer way to express my feelings is: FY SØREN!
''POKKER'' / ''POKKER'N'' / ''FY POKKER''
A bit nicer then ''faen''. = Damn! Oh bother, oh hang it.
''Hvem pokker?'' = who the deuce?
I don't care a damn = jeg gir pokker.
A wery nice one is ''FILLER'N'' , you can use it in front of kids!
...say's my dictionary...
This is from my head: (No, it's not empty!) ''Det driter jeg i'' = I don't give a shit.
Satisfied?
Hello Santa (=julenissen):
Please forgive me, I only did what the big boys asked me to do!:farxmas: :farxmas:
I'm going to wash my mouth, promise!!Klem fra Liv, Norway.
Gianni/Liv
Wow, I know where to go and I know how to insult the locals in their own language - what more could I want?
So are the rumours of outrageous costs true; don't want to make the trip to find I can't afford to get drunk and spend most of our time county the pennies. Where are the best places to stay - are the hostels good, can you get private rooms etc?
Tim
Wow, I know where to go and I know how to insult the locals in their own language - what more could I want?
So are the rumours of outrageous costs true; don't want to make the trip to find I can't afford to get drunk and spend most of our time county the pennies. Where are the best places to stay - are the hostels good, can you get private rooms etc?
Tim
So you are going to Norway!
Timbo!
Push the ''here-button'' in Zwerver's letter; he is the expert!
Saving pennies:
Buy the beer in the shop. Bring your tent.
And I forgot to tell you about 17/05:
I'ts our National Day.
Not a military day; it's a day of joy, music, school band/brass band, icecream, ''pølse i lompe'' (sausage/hot dog with a flat, round, soft potato bread-thing around the sausage!), kids walking together in line, (17/05-tog!)(tog = train, train of people, parade/procession), waving with the Norwegian flag, saying:
''Hurraaa, hurra for syttende mai!'' (syttende = seventeenth, mai = may), the King & the Queen is on the balcony - waving to the people!
The adults celebrate with the kids in the morning/afternoon, and perhaps take a drink/beer in the evening.
The best place for the tourists this day: Bring a little chair and find a place in the crowd on top of Karl Johans Gate in Oslo, be there at 0900-1000am, the parade starts ca.1000.
We call it ''Norways Birthday''
, and we congratulate each other with the day.
And the TV is there: May-be I'll see you at TV!
Hurraaaa!!!!!
Hilsen Liv, Norway.
Timbo!
Push the ''here-button'' in Zwerver's letter; he is the expert!
Saving pennies:
Buy the beer in the shop. Bring your tent.
And I forgot to tell you about 17/05:
I'ts our National Day.
Not a military day; it's a day of joy, music, school band/brass band, icecream, ''pølse i lompe'' (sausage/hot dog with a flat, round, soft potato bread-thing around the sausage!), kids walking together in line, (17/05-tog!)(tog = train, train of people, parade/procession), waving with the Norwegian flag, saying:
''Hurraaa, hurra for syttende mai!'' (syttende = seventeenth, mai = may), the King & the Queen is on the balcony - waving to the people!
The adults celebrate with the kids in the morning/afternoon, and perhaps take a drink/beer in the evening.
The best place for the tourists this day: Bring a little chair and find a place in the crowd on top of Karl Johans Gate in Oslo, be there at 0900-1000am, the parade starts ca.1000.
We call it ''Norways Birthday''
, and we congratulate each other with the day.And the TV is there: May-be I'll see you at TV!
Hurraaaa!!!!!
Hilsen Liv, Norway.
gianni
Guest
Perfect english
Story 1:
So there I was on Stortingsgatte (Oslo's Oxford Street) when a "gentleman of the road" approached me and mumbled something incomprehensible in Norwegian.
"Sorry, I don't speak Norwegian" I replied.
"Can you spare any change" he responded in perfect English.
Story 2:
So there I am in a taxi heading for Oslo airport with some ex-pat colleagues.
"You've been here two years, you must speak pretty good Norwegian" I quoth to my chums.
"Ha" said the cabbie, "no point in you English learning Norwegian but we Albanians should because we are guests here". Nice, I thought.
Story 1:
So there I was on Stortingsgatte (Oslo's Oxford Street) when a "gentleman of the road" approached me and mumbled something incomprehensible in Norwegian.
"Sorry, I don't speak Norwegian" I replied.
"Can you spare any change" he responded in perfect English.
Story 2:
So there I am in a taxi heading for Oslo airport with some ex-pat colleagues.
"You've been here two years, you must speak pretty good Norwegian" I quoth to my chums.
"Ha" said the cabbie, "no point in you English learning Norwegian but we Albanians should because we are guests here". Nice, I thought.
Iain Hogg
Guest
can't afford to get drunk
Certainly not after any duty free from the ferry is finished!!
Iain
Certainly not after any duty free from the ferry is finished!!
Iain
gerry wallbank
Guest
norway
hi timbo went to norway in june from newcastle to bergen £250 bike&me went up to artic O weather was ace 25 deg 13/14 days of sunshine great place ONE BIG LETDOWN BEER £6 YES £6 pounds a pint .Give me a ring on 01535645332 for a chat if you want
hi timbo went to norway in june from newcastle to bergen £250 bike&me went up to artic O weather was ace 25 deg 13/14 days of sunshine great place ONE BIG LETDOWN BEER £6 YES £6 pounds a pint .Give me a ring on 01535645332 for a chat if you want
I am also interested in travelling up through Norway to the artic circle next summer.
Originally I intended to go on the GS but I don’t think it will be fair to leave our 2-year-old son with his grandmother for that long and may now go by car.
Unfortunately our son has out grown the tank bag and panniers and it will be some time before his feet reach the pegs.
Traditionally Scandinavian countries have been considered very expensive compared to the UK but with the introduction of the Euro and all that went with that I am now not sure.
My questions are how expensive is Norway?
How much is petrol/diesel per litre?
Is food in supermarkets similar in price to the UK?
Are Restaurants comparable in price?
Are the main roads in the north tarmaced?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Originally I intended to go on the GS but I don’t think it will be fair to leave our 2-year-old son with his grandmother for that long and may now go by car.
Unfortunately our son has out grown the tank bag and panniers and it will be some time before his feet reach the pegs.
Traditionally Scandinavian countries have been considered very expensive compared to the UK but with the introduction of the Euro and all that went with that I am now not sure.
My questions are how expensive is Norway?
How much is petrol/diesel per litre?
Is food in supermarkets similar in price to the UK?
Are Restaurants comparable in price?
Are the main roads in the north tarmaced?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
North in Norway.
Hello Eddie!
Yes, there are tarmaced main roads in the north of Norway!
Petrol-price:
NOK: 8.50 - 9.00. Diesel a bit cheaper (a little bit less expensive!)
EURO: We still use our NOK / kr, we are not a member of the EU.
But I think we are a civilized country!
Have a look here: The first one are not only about Finnmark/Nordkapp, but about many places in Norway.
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Aegean/3600/fabeng.htm
www.lebesby.kommune.no/turistinfo/Engelsk/guide.html
http://www.northcape.no/
http://www.skafitus.no/index.htm http://home.c2i.net/northcape/indexus.html
(I do not what this symbolize; I just like it!)
Klem fra Liv, Norway.
(Calender-guys: Yes, I'm a girl! )
Hello Eddie!
Yes, there are tarmaced main roads in the north of Norway!
Petrol-price:
NOK: 8.50 - 9.00. Diesel a bit cheaper (a little bit less expensive!)
EURO: We still use our NOK / kr, we are not a member of the EU.
But I think we are a civilized country!
Have a look here: The first one are not only about Finnmark/Nordkapp, but about many places in Norway.
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Aegean/3600/fabeng.htm
www.lebesby.kommune.no/turistinfo/Engelsk/guide.html
http://www.northcape.no/
http://www.skafitus.no/index.htm http://home.c2i.net/northcape/indexus.html
(I do not what this symbolize; I just like it!)Klem fra Liv, Norway.
(Calender-guys: Yes, I'm a girl!
)
Liv,
Thanks for the info and the links to the web sites.
Norway and the North Cape are certainly favourite for next summer.
Thanks for the info and the links to the web sites.
Norway and the North Cape are certainly favourite for next summer.
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