What's with the Gold cup John;
Temptation - 1911 .22lr
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A firearms dealer can have pistols other than .22 but he can't sell them to ordinary citizens, only other dealers. What's involved in becoming a "dealer"? I'll speculate that's it's difficult, expensive, and involves jumping through a lot of hoops, so not worth it for most people.
Nice that .22's are legal to own, they are really among the most fun to target shoot with anyway.
Nice that .22's are legal to own, they are really among the most fun to target shoot with anyway.
In theory yes and other types rifles. Asked dealer last night and he said Dealer cant import anything bigger than a .22 pistol now, before they could. Brexit meant the importing rules got a good review and small changes made to close loop holes. However if you have them you can keep them. In Northern Ireland you can own pistols of higher calibre so if a dealer wanted import for a customer in NI or buy one from a customer in NI bigger then a .22 he can do so.
Become a dealer - not as much as would think, I know pre covid there was a large number of "dealers!!!!!!!" that were setup for private use, essentially allowed them to own more guns and buy ammo in bulk for lot cheaper. However during covid Revenue realised lot these companies never actually sold anything so got closed as they were not buy or selling anything.
Two types from what i can see, dealer for unrestricted firearms or pay more and become a restricted firearm dealer. Also can apply to be a reloader where can re load own ammo.
Build a bunker, get security setup and have Garda inspect it and sign off. Then pay a fee to them. what catches lot people is they dont have a business setup.
What's with the Gold cup John;
A new Toy, gold cup edition was colts target version of the standard 1911, the standard or government model was a more basic pistol. Colour is the new FDE flat dark earth, new type colour lot US buyers like (funny has nothing to do with it been the GOLD CUP model). Not usually a fan of FDE but in person it looks very nice, i would prefer a more traditional dark colour but at 40% off full price i am happy to make that sacrifice.
Will be more S/A rifles here as of last year they got banned and caused lot issues. Not that there were many in the country.
Funny mate mine has a 9mm but since 2014 you cant buy them anymore but those who have them can keep them. He goes to US and Canada a lot to see family and ammo is cheaper in Ireland than US for his 9mm which is very strange
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Hunters here are allowed semi auto rifles and shotguns that don’t exceed 3 rounds, these are category C and fairly easy to own
Otherwise, all other semi auto weapons, such as AR15 etc are category B, as are all hand guns of any kind, these are quite rightly more difficult to own
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I have one of these, a GSG 1911 long barreled pistol in .22LR, it’s the closest we are allowed to get to a handgun. Unless you go black powder, which my brother has.
I have one of these, a GSG 1911 long barreled pistol in .22LR, it’s the closest we are allowed to get to a handgun. Unless you go black powder, which my brother has.
Semi Auto .22 rifles, .22 pistols and shotguns are allowed here and no issues. If want 3+ rounds in shotgun need a restricted cert, again if have a genuine reason its no issue. Anything bigger than .22lr semi is not allowed
Thermal scope are not allowed, must be the only country in Europe with this restriction, need to apply for a restricted license for one.
Yes i have seen the UK pistol its funny yoke, yet in NI its a different law for pistols must less restrictive.
One flip side in Ireland black powder is very hard to get as seen as an explosive and not as a propellant in the rest of the world. (some 3 lettered origination scared the government and that's when in 1972 the controls around anything firearms got seriously restrictive). Same for reloading because the parts are classed as explosives and not propellants its next to impossible get them. anyone who has them says the costs involved make it ear impossible unless very wealthy
the rules in the UK are utter genius.... and whoever dreamt them up needs a padded room and a calm down...
the reason given was to make the citizens safer.... that's really going well...! if the news papers are to be believed...
Tony Blair used a mass shooting event to impose draconian measures, which far outstriped the cullen report... then got into the middle on an illegal war for money... oh and he brought peace to the middle east and that was 35 years ago..? Double genius and he's guarded by people with guns... paid for with my and everyone else's taxes...
the rules in the UK as really messy, some places you can have guns, some you can't. Someplaces you can have guns for defence others you can't... while criminals do as they like.. it seems at odds with being law abiding...
the reason given was to make the citizens safer.... that's really going well...! if the news papers are to be believed...
Tony Blair used a mass shooting event to impose draconian measures, which far outstriped the cullen report... then got into the middle on an illegal war for money... oh and he brought peace to the middle east and that was 35 years ago..? Double genius and he's guarded by people with guns... paid for with my and everyone else's taxes...
the rules in the UK as really messy, some places you can have guns, some you can't. Someplaces you can have guns for defence others you can't... while criminals do as they like.. it seems at odds with being law abiding...
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My apologies John, the photo I intended to attach wouldn’t load for some reason. Black powder has been put into the explosives category over here now too, my brother had to apply for an explosives license recently. Not sure about gunpowder though, I’m still using what I have left for my reloading. It does seem that one way or another, government are trying to legislate us out of our sport/hobby.
most police forces are now trying to claim that modern powders are also included into the explosive act, stuff like pyrodex for example... and the individual has to account for powders in manufactured rounds, as part of their total allowance. (held/ stored powder) which kinda is complex cos how do you know what's in'em...
so it's simpler to get an explosive license, but once you have that your also bound by the H+S act and that's where this can all get very sticky...!
so it's simpler to get an explosive license, but once you have that your also bound by the H+S act and that's where this can all get very sticky...!
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I believe we’re allowed night vision or thermal scopes as long as they’re hand held, weapon mounted night scopes are illegal
Thats the daft part, criminals dont use legally held firearms and theft is low if not non existant.
I am ok with a min storage requirements and an alarm but if your ok to own one then ok to own 10
in the UK, it's more nonsense
you can have rifle mounted nightvision NV and thermal but your not allowed to hunt with it, or something stupid but you use them for vermin control.. (that's like hunting isn't it?)
who's gonna creep about in the woods, to try and find you.. cos the rifle will be suppressed... and with NV or thermal... it's very effective
NV can be funny if your out foxing, and you look across and see other folks with IR infrared illuminators lighting up the woods... infront of you... it does make you stop and think
thermal on the other hand is a game changer...
you can have rifle mounted nightvision NV and thermal but your not allowed to hunt with it, or something stupid but you use them for vermin control.. (that's like hunting isn't it?)
who's gonna creep about in the woods, to try and find you.. cos the rifle will be suppressed... and with NV or thermal... it's very effective
NV can be funny if your out foxing, and you look across and see other folks with IR infrared illuminators lighting up the woods... infront of you... it does make you stop and think
thermal on the other hand is a game changer...
I just think NV or Thermal is ideal for low light, i do see the issue with open use and no paperwork as plenty poachers use them incorrectly and have been know hit farm animals or building that they didn't see. however those people don't care about laws or rules so will always the there whether laws allow it or not.
the first rule of being incharge is stay in charge.... and that involves getting rid of guns and people who might have an different opinion from those people who are in charge...
Plus add Ireland into it then the importing gets seriously expensive
