The pro shift - meh
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Thanks for all the input - it appears some of you have mastered it so I'll stay at it for a while before I start complaining to the dealer. It's a new bike and the gearbox isn't as smooth as my previous LC with over 20k on the clock so it could be a combination of poor technique, new gear box and high expectations.
I was using mine wrong when I first had it,its best on upchanges when the revs on are the high side.Also it improved with a few miles on the clock.I wouldn't be without it now but I thought it was a load of cack at first!
If you have to learn how to use a quickshifter to get the best out of it, then why not just learn how to use the throttle and clutch to get the best out of them???????
Precisely
It's not an automatic gearbox and isn't billed as such, it's something you become accustomed to and use when it suits or when the mood takes you at other times riders can shift in the conventional way, I recall you having a similar view of esa and traction control and all the other gadgets fitted as standard to TE model GS & GSA, remind me what are you riding now?
Troppo
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Because when you get used to it, the quickshifter is much more fun.
My 2014 RT LC was ok, but picked up a 2015 GSA late last year and the quick shift and gear box is 10 times slicker and better.
It's not an automatic gearbox and isn't billed as such, it's something you become accustomed to and use when it suits or when the mood takes you at other times riders can shift in the conventional way, I recall you having a similar view of esa and traction control and all the other gadgets fitted as standard to TE model GS & GSA, remind me what are you riding now?
I got a deal that I couldn't refuse on the TE otherwise would have stayed with a new basic LC for all the reasons I had said in the past
The dynamic suspension is better two-up than the basic suspension - I admit that.
Georgeeboi
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I think shift assist / pro shift what ever you wish to call it is brill and having come from bikes with quickshifters I really could not fault the shift assist on the bm it was always faultless .
I'm always a late convert to tech, although I now see satnav, cruise control & hot hands as essential spec on a bike.
But a quick shifter on a GS has me flummoxed to be honest?
After a clunky start with my WC, she's bedding in & I'm learning what she does and doesn't like.
It was glorious out there today, Nirvana was just over the horizon, and I think gear shift assist pro would only have made an awkward threesome!
sorry to go a bit Clarkson at the end.
But a quick shifter on a GS has me flummoxed to be honest?
After a clunky start with my WC, she's bedding in & I'm learning what she does and doesn't like.
It was glorious out there today, Nirvana was just over the horizon, and I think gear shift assist pro would only have made an awkward threesome!
sorry to go a bit Clarkson at the end.
Mine is a retrofit and I'm very pleased; upshift is not as smooth as I would have liked, giving me a kick, but improves acceleration hugely. Downshift is an unexpected revelation, bloody fantastic and smoother than I could do it with a clutch and being quicker makes it a great tool going into bends. I love it.
I've just sold my XR and the quick shift on that was silky smooth, I've now got the GSA and yes it's a bit more harsh but so is the GSA gearbox compared to the XR when changing normally. But having said that the 2016 GS box is far better than the first couple of year bikes.
On the whole now I'm getting used to the GSA compared to the riding style of the XR I find the gear changes both up and down a lot smoother. So even though you have the gear shift assist you still need to time your changes to get the best out of it.
PS I'm loving being back on the GSA
Terry
On the whole now I'm getting used to the GSA compared to the riding style of the XR I find the gear changes both up and down a lot smoother. So even though you have the gear shift assist you still need to time your changes to get the best out of it.
PS I'm loving being back on the GSA
Terry
I was out on my GSA all day yesterday, and with this thread in mind thought I'd try and confuse the GSAP, and succeeded a couple of times.
If you roll off ever so slightly while changing up with GSAP, that's when it'll lurch and cause problems. Keep the throttle open, and it'll work perfectly every time. After many years of riding with a traditional clutch/ gearbox (and I don't mean this in a patronising way), some folk may be taking a bit longer to adjust to the concept of it, and still roll of slightly when going up the box, which then causes problems.
So, for anyone experiencing problems, go out and play around with it, try and confuse it like I did yesterday, and get to know how it really works.
If you roll off ever so slightly while changing up with GSAP, that's when it'll lurch and cause problems. Keep the throttle open, and it'll work perfectly every time. After many years of riding with a traditional clutch/ gearbox (and I don't mean this in a patronising way), some folk may be taking a bit longer to adjust to the concept of it, and still roll of slightly when going up the box, which then causes problems.
So, for anyone experiencing problems, go out and play around with it, try and confuse it like I did yesterday, and get to know how it really works.
fredaroony
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I did something similar yesterday too and I found 1st gear always feels clunky, 2nd is ok if you give it quite a few revs and 3rd-6th is always fine.
I did the recalibration and not sure if it made much difference.
The shift assist and most other Q-shifters were never meant to be used from 1st into 2nd reason being the throw between 1-2 is to long due to neutral so ideally 2nd up is where you should be using it.
fredaroony
Registered user
Yeah I know but was just playing around with it since I had a really open road. However, I had the kill times nailed on my Fireblade's QS and 1st to 2nd was smooth as butter.
J biker
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Took a test ride on Tuono 1000v4 a while back. Dealer stated not to use quick shifter on 1st to 2nd. (don't shoot the messenger..)
My S1r had quick shifter and I only used it 2nd gear and up. Anyway, great bit of kit and beyond a doubt quicker acceleration can be had with them.
Btw, keep the throttle open and don't shut off. Closed throttle will induce clunky changes, its designed to cut fuel electronically as you shift so all that is required is to keep it pinned.
My S1r had quick shifter and I only used it 2nd gear and up. Anyway, great bit of kit and beyond a doubt quicker acceleration can be had with them.
Btw, keep the throttle open and don't shut off. Closed throttle will induce clunky changes, its designed to cut fuel electronically as you shift so all that is required is to keep it pinned.
exactly what he said!
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