Too close for comfort

[Wizard]

Twice. Fecking twice.

 

[Timolgra]

Tim.....you're right, but I also suspect you agree just a little

If I do agree with anything, it's with the original post which clearly admits the incident was down to rider error and in particular with Commuter's last sentence...but I guess discussing it in this way does make us all the more aware of our own actions in a variety of situations and that perhaps most of us are lucky at times......thank goodness

 

[tommymoto]

I think we all suffer from a similar thing at times......Percieved ability over actual ability.

It's a dangerous thing

 

[Packer]

Firstly I hope that you're mate is OK.

Secondly, who was leading, I am assuming it was Commuters mate?

Thirdly, can someone clarify why Commuter ended up on the wrong side of the road "(on the wrong side of the road - no vehicle coming my way thank god)" on a sudden right hander?

Vino rosso seems to be clouding my thought process but I would have expected him to end up in the hedge if he ran wide on a right hander

 

[Farmboy]

I saw 3 cops riding in the opposite direction to me last week, Its obviously a rare thing to see a fully laden KTM 950 Adventure in Orange travelling in the other direction as the cop at the back almost ploughed into the other 2 whilst looking at me

And Just look at Nori Haga yesterday I bet he regrets waving his fist in anger at Biaggi

It just goes to show we all make mistakes


I must admit signs would definately help on a corner as bad as that one and the council should get a grip of it, however have to agree with the majority on this one, rider fault but all in all who cares your still both around to talk about it

 

[Phil Clarke]

If every blind corner on every road in the uk was signed we'd be up to our neck in road signs and our councils would go bust. Its difficult to see from the photo what your visibility from a bike would have been like but based on the photos view point there is no way you should be overtaking a van there unless it was doing like 15mph. Long white lines = unsafe to overtake.
And you should always be able to stop in the distance you can see. Sorry to be an armchair critic but if you are going to post pictures and accident details we are going to post criticism! Glad your both ok barring some bust plastic, I bet you won't do that again!

 

[Andy Davies]

If every blind corner on every road in the uk was signed we'd be up to our neck in road signs ..................!

..........and that's precisely what A&B Council are doing.

One day I'll count the signs between Oban and Dalmally, but it's no exaggerration to say that nearly every bend is signposted.

Andy

 

[Phil Clarke]

Typical A&B cooncil stupidity - the danger with that approach is that when you get a bit of road with no warning signs, you assume its easy.....

 

[Commuter]

Thanks to all

Thanks to all on this thread, I hope that we have main you all think about the next blind corner.

We (both riders) know we where at fault. (Speed, position for road and of course CAUTION)

To clarify, I was leading and overtook the van before we got the the foot of the hill (1/3 mile) before corner. As we asended the hill in the picture, it looks like it is going right, but as you hit the crest of the hill the road takes sharp LEFT (it doesn't follow the telegraph lines even more like a 70 angle with a hedge in front.

I slammed on the brakes and managed to get around the corner, abeit on the wrong side of the road. My mate, didn't make it, his bike was written off this morning, poor KTM.

Mate is sore and bruised (especially his ego)

Ride safe and thanks for the good wishes, I have passed them on.

Nick.

 

[Packer]

To clarify, I was leading and overtook the van before we got the the foot of the hill (1/3 mile) before corner. As we asended the hill in the picture, it looks like it is going right, but as you hit the crest of the hill the road takes sharp LEFT (it doesn't follow the telegraph lines even more like a 70 angle with a hedge in front.

Ahaaa, that explains you ending up on the wrong side of the road! In your original post you said "beyond the vanishing line flicks to a 90 degree right,"

Thanks for the correction and clarification

 

[davedyer]

Been doing some studying and come across this:
"Although a local authority has a general statutory duty to maintain highways and promote road safety, the failure of the local authority to erect signs does not amount to a breach of this duty (Gorringe v Calderdale MBC [2004] UKHL 15). As the House of Lords put it ‘drivers have to take care for themselves and drive at a safe speed irrespective of whether or not there was a warning sign; they were not entitled to suppose that the need for care on their journeys would be highlighted so as to protect them from their own negligence’."
(Copyright © Oxford University Press 2008.)

Hope that clarifies.