Touratech Tractive Plug and Play

If to do a search for Touratech Extreme or Tractive suspension you should find plenty of info on the results of fitting them.

I have asked about your feedback-review. Not installing information.
 
You have missed my meaning.
I said " the results of fitting them" this means what happened after they were fitted.
 
As previously mentioned on here, and to re-iterate -Tractive manufacture the units for Touratech.- the only difference are the stickers (obviously) and the anodised colouring (orange & yellow). Prices in the UK are the same for both.

Is the Tractive investment worth it? – After extensive research, for me it was worth the investment for the durability/reliability and peace of mind for longer tours and expeditions. I intend to keep my GSA long term, so a unit which is more robust, rugged and fully serviceable would be an advantage. The Tractive spring was also tailored for my (heavier) requirements and the unit also keeps the full ESA functionality. I decided against the Wilbers upgrade since this was only a partial upgrade which retained the BMW ESA components.
If however, I only intended to use my GSA in the UK and for shorter Euro tours, I would probably have stuck with the standard Sachs ESA suspension (which is still pretty damn good), and periodically utilized Denzo’s services for overhaul/maintenance.
In terms of performance over the Sachs unit, there is a lot of feedback from users in the linky below…(incidentally, I’m very happy with the performance upgrade)

https://www.advrider.com/f/threads/touratech-suspension-on-wc-1200-worth-price.1095186/
touratech suspension on WC 1200, worth price? | Adventure Rider (advrider.com)

Good review and conclusion here also...
https://www.brake-magazine.com/rated-touratech-tractive-suspension/
 
I’m also considering the tractive units, but I’m not sure whether to keep the ESA style units or go for manual adjusted ones. Is there a way of turning off the fault light it will no doubt bring up?
 
I’m also considering the tractive units, but I’m not sure whether to keep the ESA style units or go for manual adjusted ones. Is there a way of turning off the fault light it will no doubt bring up?

Yes, there are plug in gizzmos to fool the ECU. They are not cheap £250.00 from TT.
 
Yeah the price gets closer, I want them for off road use, so I was thinking the extreme units would be more suited but I also use the bike for touring and sometimes the wife comes out on the back. The stock shocks are holding up well with 40000 hard miles on them, decisions decisions
 
Yeah the price gets closer, I want them for off road use, so I was thinking the extreme units would be more suited but I also use the bike for touring and sometimes the wife comes out on the back. The stock shocks are holding up well with 40000 hard miles on them, decisions decisions

If your bike is 2017 onwards with the D-ESA go for replacement ESA shocks as they work so well with the reactive element, the D in D-ESA. You can feel the damping tighten up the faster you go. They are very high quality items.
I have not heard or read of anyone having issues with TT/Tractive shocks ESA or not, if there has been it is rare, unlike the OE shocks.
 
I’m pre auto levelling, I think I will go for the plug and play option, the convenience of it may push me that way plus I get a bit ocd when I have buttons on my bike that don’t work!
The rallying is a half a dozen times a year but I try and ride off-road as often as I can. Plus I love touring Europe and getting away for weekends. Add to that the wife likes to ride pillion on get aways I think it’s the sensible option.
 
I’m also considering the tractive units, but I’m not sure whether to keep the ESA style units or go for manual adjusted ones. Is there a way of turning off the fault light it will no doubt bring up?

The Touratech ESA fitted to my 1250GS integrate with the ESA onboard software, the dealer just reset the software (Sycamore).
 
I had the Touatech ESA fitted because I have a herniated disc in my back that was getting hammered by the standard suspension, particularly on tour in the Alps. So stumped up the stupid amount of money for front and rear. The dealer altered the on board software so Touratech is integrated with the switchgear.

I had a custom spring supplied with the units. The rebound and compression is , without doubt, an improvement and works at all speeds. It is smoother and has faster control.

Is it worth the cost? It was for me but the scars caused by the invoice still rankle .
 
Yeah, not cheap but anything any good never is. I think I will go for the ESA version when it comes to it. I can reset it all with the GS-911 and fit it myself ok. Just getting it past the other half!
 
I had the Touatech ESA fitted because I have a herniated disc in my back that was getting hammered by the standard suspension, particularly on tour in the Alps. So stumped up the stupid amount of money for front and rear. The dealer altered the on board software so Touratech is integrated with the switchgear.

I had a custom spring supplied with the units. The rebound and compression is , without doubt, an improvement and works at all speeds. It is smoother and has faster control.

Is it worth the cost? It was for me but the scars caused by the invoice still rankle .

Do you know what they change in software, and what year bike please, I thought was plug n ride
 
Do you know what they change in software, and what year bike please, I thought was plug n ride

https://www.touratech-uk.co.uk/tour...-for-bmw-r-1200gs-adventure-lc-2014-2016.html

I have the 2014 R1200 GSA LC model, and upgraded to the Tractive Plug/Play ESA (same as the Touratech plug and travel linky above). Listed are the UK prices - The Tractive factory is down the road from you in Amsterdam...you may get a better dealing directly with them.
TracTive Suspension B.V.
Kovel 1B
5431 ST Cuijk – The Netherlands

Following installation, no errors or changes in the software were required. :thumb2
 
Was it worth the dosh? Do you ride off road at all?

See post #43 – I’d recommend you read the review/conclusion by Llewellen Sullivan Davey (pages 1 & 2). Llewellen is a serious offroader/Dakar rider, and provides a better impartial evaluation than the likes of me.
At the end of the day, only you can decide on whether to splash the cash on the upgrade. Mine was purchased over 3 years ago and from memory was around the £2k price mark. As previously mentioned, I’m very happy with my decision to upgrade for the reasons outlined in Post #43.
However, I would bear in mind that these days there appears are more suspension repair/refurbishment/spring upgrade services available (Denzo of this parish for instance). Depending on your budget, this may well be a more cost effective option.

From Post #43….
Is the Tractive investment worth it? – After extensive research, for me it was worth the investment for the durability/reliability and peace of mind for longer tours and expeditions. I intend to keep my GSA long term, so a unit which is more robust, rugged and fully serviceable would be an advantage. The Tractive spring was also tailored for my (heavier) requirements and the unit also keeps the full ESA functionality. I decided against the Wilbers upgrade since this was only a partial upgrade which retained the BMW ESA components.
If however, I only intended to use my GSA in the UK and for shorter Euro tours, I would probably have stuck with the standard Sachs ESA suspension (which is still pretty damn good), and periodically utilized Denzo’s services for overhaul/maintenance.
In terms of performance over the Sachs unit, there is a lot of feedback from users in the linky below…(incidentally, I’m very happy with the performance upgrade)

https://www.advrider.com/f/threads/t...price.1095186/
touratech suspension on WC 1200, worth price? | Adventure Rider (advrider.com)

Good review and conclusion here also...
https://www.brake-magazine.com/rated...ve-suspension/
 
The brake page seems no longer available but I remember watching it when it first came out.
 


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