Trackers

[Pepsi]

My mate recovered his with his Monimoto so clearly they work and it wasn't a waste of money.

A Monimoto is neither a Tracker nor a BikeTrac system is it? My point which has obviously gone soaring over your head is that Trackers for example have limited places where they can be installed and dealers tend to install them in exactly the same place time after time and the thieves know this and rely on this. We would routinely find Trackers ripped out of Transit vans and discarded at the roadside often within literally minutes of the vehicle having been stolen because fitters used to put them in the exact same place every time, that being under the dashboard on the near side of the van. Thieves would simply smash that side of the dashboard and then rip out the Tracker and chuck it out of the window before disappearing into the night.

In contrast I have an AirTag secreted on my Husqvarna FE350 which would be difficult to find and equally difficult to remove. I’m under no illusion that it would not outsmart a seasoned bike thief but hopefully it would buy me some time to track the bike and pass that information onto the Police who in fairness would probably not even bother turning out but hey, it gives me a sense of reassurance even if it’s misguided.

 

[John Armstrong]

Thieves know EXACTLY where Trackers etc will be installed on any given model of bike or car and know EXACTLY how to access them quickly before ripping them out and throwing them out the window rendering them totally useless. They are in my opinion a total waste of money.

Not all thieves know where to look: https://www.visordown.com/news/bike...Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1747988240

 

[EPG_19]

A Monimoto is neither a Tracker nor a BikeTrac system is it? My point which has obviously gone soaring over your head is that Trackers for example have limited places where they can be installed and dealers tend to install them in exactly the same place time after time and the thieves know this and rely on this. We would routinely find Trackers ripped out of Transit vans and discarded at the roadside often within literally minutes of the vehicle having been stolen because fitters used to put them in the exact same place every time, that being under the dashboard on the near side of the van. Thieves would simply smash that side of the dashboard and then rip out the Tracker and chuck it out of the window before disappearing into the night.

In contrast I have an AirTag secreted on my Husqvarna FE350 which would be difficult to find and equally difficult to remove. I’m under no illusion that it would not outsmart a seasoned bike thief but hopefully it would buy me some time to track the bike and pass that information onto the Police who in fairness would probably not even bother turning out but hey, it gives me a sense of reassurance even if it’s misguided.

not difficult to find if you have an iphone.

the police would respond to biketrac and datatool but not an airtag, they certainly wouldnt enter any premises with just an airtag ping.

 

[Pepsi]

not difficult to find if you have an iphone.

the police would respond to biketrac and datatool but not an airtag, they certainly wouldnt enter any premises with just an airtag ping.

I’m not too sure, it’s always the attending Officers call I understand that but services like Find my IPhone are fairly accurate, AirTags use the same technology. If a stolen phone pinged in a block of flats an Officer would be hard pushed to justify searching any given flat on a whim but in different circumstances if a stolen phone pinged indicating one of perhaps two semis then each house would be worthy of a door knock just to make a subtle enquiry starting a conversation with something along the lines of, good evening, sorry to bother you, I don’t suppose you’ve recently found an iPhone 16 in grey have you it’s been reported lost and it’s pinging at your house.
Occasionally this will prompt a response along the lines of, actually yes, I was going to hand it in in the morning. Another widely used tactic is whilst speaking with the occupants get a colleague to call the stolen phone or have the owner ask the phone to make a sound via `Find my Phone. Both tactics have been used by me, sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don’t but it’s always worth the effort for the phones owner as these phones ain’t cheap are they.

This tactic can obviously be used for any product that may have an Apple device secreted within it.

 

[Pepsi]

Not all thieves know where to look: https://www.visordown.com/news/bike...Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1747988240

No, not all thieves know where to look, but the professional do and I don’t mean Brodie & Doyle.

 

[EPG_19]

I’m not too sure, it’s always the attending Officers call I understand that but services like Find my IPhone are fairly accurate, AirTags use the same technology. If a stolen phone pinged in a block of flats an Officer would be hard pushed to justify searching any given flat on a whim but in different circumstances if a stolen phone pinged indicating one of perhaps two semis then each house would be worthy of a door knock just to make a subtle enquiry starting a conversation with something along the lines of, good evening, sorry to bother you, I don’t suppose you’ve recently found an iPhone 16 in grey have you it’s been reported lost and it’s pinging at your house.
Occasionally this will prompt a response along the lines of, actually yes, I was going to hand it in in the morning. Another widely used tactic is whilst speaking with the occupants get a colleague to call the stolen phone or have the owner ask the phone to make a sound via `Find my Phone. Both tactics have been used by me, sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don’t but it’s always worth the effort for the phones owner as these phones ain’t cheap are they.

This tactic can obviously be used for any product that may have an Apple device secreted within it.

You could always search the house but dont bother as the law is sketchy or some other police cant be arsed speak

 

[Tyzer]

No, not all thieves know where to look, but the professional do and I don’t mean Brodie & Doyle.

That would be Bodie and Doyle

 

[Deleted account 251212001]

it seems like an AirTag is significantly flawed because it will communicate to a random iphone (eg a thief's phone) to say the AirTag is moving with the iPhone, to avoid stalking scenarios. It also has a speaker that could emit a noise. Looks like there is also an app for android devices to alert if an AirTag is moving with them.

Maybe if you use two and they assume clear after finding the first one it could catch them out. (and disable the speaker by flipping the back off)

What to do if you receive an alert that an AirTag, set of AirPods, Find My network accessory or compatible Bluetooth location-tracking device is with you – Apple Support (UK)

AirTag lets you easily track things such as your keys, wallet, purse, backpack, luggage and more. Simply set it up with your iPhone, iPad or iPod touch and attach it to your item, and your AirTag will appear in the Items tab in the Find My app.

support.apple.com

 

[Pepsi]

It’s all about being creative.

 

[Pepsi]

That would be Bodie and Doyle

Ah yes, so it would.

 

[Pepsi]

You could always search the house but dont bother as the law is sketchy or some other police cant be arsed speak

Such negativity, it’s not a good image.

 

[EPG_19]

Such negativity, it’s not a good image.

I have seen a coppers feather touch for a knock oh no one home

 

[Pepsi]

I have seen a coppers feather touch for a knock oh no one home

I have no doubt as it’s a tried and tested technique especially if you’re asked to do an arrest enquiry 15 minutes before you are due to knock off.

 

[tspivey]

Regarding insurance, when I bought my 2021 R1250GS in 2022 I insured it siting that it had the BMW Datatool Stealth tracker, over the first weeks of ownership I decided to remove it because of the battery issues and subscription costs. I rang the insurance and explained I’d removed it and it made difference at all to the premium.

 

[EPG_19]

Regarding insurance, when I bought my 2021 R1250GS in 2022 I insured it siting that it had the BMW Datatool Stealth tracker, over the first weeks of ownership I decided to remove it because of the battery issues and subscription costs. I rang the insurance and explained I’d removed it and it made difference at all to the premium.

Some need it as a condition of their insurance

 

[theoneandonly]

A Monimoto is neither a Tracker nor a BikeTrac system is it?

i beg to differ , you CAN track the monimoto .

 

[casbar]

i beg to differ , you CAN track the monimoto .

Thought I read other tracker companies disable the ability for the user to track as soon as you report a bike stolen, they look after it.

 

[theoneandonly]

monimoto , i don't think will call plod .
they don't charge anything after purchase .
you buy it , insert their card or yours , and power it up .
their card is £3/ month .

 

[Pepsi]

i beg to differ , you CAN track the monimoto .

I know you can, reread my comment.

 

[68dicky]

Currently I don't have a tracker but as others point out going with something like a Datatool Stealth (had this on the 1250) as soon as you report it stolen you loose access to location. Based on the Uk police would they ever follow it up in a timely fashion? I'm considering the Monimoto but will have a look later to see exactly where I can hide the damn thing on the 1300. Not looked yet but is there room behind the front radar cover on bikes without radar? Would be an ideal location if that were the case.