Training to become a CBT instructor / trainer /coach

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Well, it seemed like a good way of getting a steady income, however meagre. So I have started to learn the syllabus for the CBT and shadow the current trainer so as to get a feel for what is required. I have done 3 full days now and today I delivered the first three modules: Introduction/welcome, then the clothing talk, then the walk round the bike. It is about 4 weeks of practice before I get signed off as a 'down trained' CBT delivery bod, then I can go for the DVSA assessment in Manchester, but that is a fair way off yet.
Any input to help me on my journey gratefully received, either from those who have undergone a CBT and feedback to help me be a good trainer - or from those who are already imparting the information.
 
King Rat said:
Well, it seemed like a good way of getting a steady income, however meagre. So I have started to learn the syllabus for the CBT and shadow the current trainer so as to get a feel for what is required. I have done 3 full days now and today I delivered the first three modules: Introduction/welcome, then the clothing talk, then the walk round the bike. It is about 4 weeks of practice before I get signed off as a 'down trained' CBT delivery bod, then I can go for the DVSA assessment in Manchester, but that is a fair way off yet.
Any input to help me on my journey gratefully received, either from those who have undergone a CBT and feedback to help me be a good trainer - or from those who are already imparting the information.
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I think I am not the only instructor here. I've been doing it for 5 years and now run my own school, but I am still learning!

I'm happy to take a call and talk you through anything you want, so by all means drop me a PM.
 
I did mine too many years ago for my experience to be of any use I’m afraid, but best of luck on your assessment! 👍
 
if your patch is anything like my mate's in Bristol, you might want to carry a Smith & Wesson M&P

twats on scooters have tried to knock off a pupil on the road element to get the bike, where the pillion would then ride off on the stolen one. Fortunately the pupil kept going rather than panicking and the twats backed off once they realised she was being escorted by a chap on an R1200RT. Rum old place, Bristol.
 
I looked at this when i retired in 2017 given the amount of training you have to do all at your own expense, you provide the bike, riding kit, servicing ect the low wages you can earn IMO not worth it.
 
If you are a self-employed instructor and many are, you can claim expenses in relation to the running of the bike e.g. kit, insurance, fuel, servicing, blah, blah, blah. Also, bikes are considered 'plant' so you get a tax allowance per year for three years I think, for 18% of the value of the bike. I'd need to look it up but it's something like that. I'm sure that Rachel's acolytes are currently looking at ways to change this to the governments advantage.
 
the woodster said:
If you are a self-employed instructor and many are, you can claim expenses in relation to the running of the bike e.g. kit, insurance, fuel, servicing, blah, blah, blah. Also, bikes are considered 'plant' so you get a tax allowance per year for three years I think, for 18% of the value of the bike. I'd need to look it up but it's something like that. I'm sure that Rachel's acolytes are currently looking at ways to change this to the governments advantage.
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Indeed, there are many more tax benefits being self-employed - see the link below. You can claim for a home office and a percentage of your utility bills, claim on your mobile phone, clothing, mileage, laptops and IT consumables, your training costs, there is even a daily food allowance. The bike you use for training is a work tool and you can even claim against some of the car use. Definitely worth having a good read on the gubmint website.

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g.s.john said:
I looked at this when i retired in 2017 given the amount of training you have to do all at your own expense, you provide the bike, riding kit, servicing ect the low wages you can earn IMO not worth it.
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You obviously earned a heck of a sight more than I did. £85 /day is what is on offer and that to me is a very good wage, and self employed even more so with the tax benefits. The other thing is, I have the qualifications required, and there is a job offered, more than can be said for anything else. Not having a degree or fancy qualifications and being 'on the heap' means finding any job is difficult - and I don't get any benefits whatsoever either, I don't actually know how you go about getting any.
 
King Rat said:
You obviously earned a heck of a sight more than I did. £85 /day is what is on offer and that to me is a very good wage, and self employed even more so with the tax benefits. The other thing is, I have the qualifications required, and there is a job offered, more than can be said for anything else. Not having a degree or fancy qualifications and being 'on the heap' means finding any job is difficult - and I don't get any benefits whatsoever either, I don't actually know how you go about getting any.
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Bit of something is better than nothing Simon.
 
the job is very much a seasonal job, and like all jobs it has its ups and downs, not so nice through winter due to weather and also lack of work and poor pay, it takes it out of your bike especially if doing direct access, not much easier on the bike doing cbt but less miles involved. you may struggle to keep your bike on the road or at least well looked after unless you have other income.
there are also the type of people as related to by wessie above and they are getting more regular.
Then there are some of the most outdated DVSA rules we have to adhere to that i wont go into, we would be talking for hours on that.

the good things about the job are being able to impart advice and training that may help someone to become a better rider and hopefully stay safe.
The fact you get to ride your bike while doing this is a big bonus, seeing the smiles on peoples faces when they pass and you know that you were at least part of the reason for that smile.
 
Will you ride fast enough for the learners :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Not to mention the wear and tear on tyres
 
King Rat said:
You obviously earned a heck of a sight more than I did. £85 /day is what is on offer and that to me is a very good wage, and self employed even more so with the tax benefits. The other thing is, I have the qualifications required, and there is a job offered, more than can be said for anything else. Not having a degree or fancy qualifications and being 'on the heap' means finding any job is difficult - and I don't get any benefits whatsoever either, I don't actually know how you go about getting any.
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Even with all the benefits of being self-employed £85 a day is a terrible wage. It must be minimum wage or less!!
 
dommiek said:
Even with all the benefits of being self-employed £85 a day is a terrible wage. It must be minimum wage or less!!
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I guess it all depends on how many hours one works to get £85. If it’s 12 hours it’s less than £7.10 per hour.
If it’s one hour then…
 
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